Why do you live in the West if you hate it so?

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dishdash said:
Misconception 1
Islam is `the religion of peace' because:
the Arabic word Islam is derived from the Arabic word "Al-Salaam" which means peace.

It might seem strange to think of this as a misconception, but in fact it is. The root word of Islam is "al-silm" which means "submission" or "surrender." It is understood to mean "submission to Allah." In spite of whatever noble intention has caused many a Muslim to claim that Islam is derived primarily from peace, this is not true. Allah says in the Qur'an (translated):

[2:136] Say (O Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed to us and that which was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have surrendered. [Arabic "Muslimoon"]
A secondary root of Islam may be "Al-Salaam" (peace), however the text of the Qur'an makes it clear that Allah has clearly intended the focus of this way of life to be submission to Him. This entails submission to Him at all times, in times of peace, war, ease, or difficulty.

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/notislam/misconceptions.html
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yeah- and when you submit to Him you get peace!
 
~Mu'MiNaH~ said:
I thought it meant both too, meaning you can attain true peace by submitting to Allah???
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No. Like I say, you can attribute whatever qualities to Islam you wish, but to the meaning of the actual word, you cannot.
 
MMMM... Hey Hei, no one said you cannot fight! But you will still get beaten if you are fighting true Muslims, rather Mu'mins...

8:66 For the present, Allah hath lightened your (task), for He knoweth that there is a weak spot in you: But (even so), if there are a hundred of you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred, and if a thousand, they will vanquish two thousand, with the leave of Allah. for Allah is with those who patiently persevere.

8:65 O Messenger. rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers: for these are a people without understanding.

MMMM times 2... Hey Twel, sure they are Islamic countries but they are no true Islamic countries or Mu'min Countries (governments), so MUHHH! Who does not govern by ALLAH's rules and the Prophet (PBUH) then they are as good (being polite) as a kafir!

The day will soon come when the truth will rise. ( do not reply because the time has not come... so just wait!)
 
It doesn't matter, we should all be humbled and submit to Allah. That is the feeling we should get when we are in sajdah. And that is the feeling we should get when we cry and ask of Him when we get up for tahajjud (insha-Allah).
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R_Mujahed said:
MMMM... Hey Hei, no one said you cannot fight! But you will still get beaten if you are fighting true Muslims, rather Mu'mins...

8:66 For the present, Allah hath lightened your (task), for He knoweth that there is a weak spot in you: But (even so), if there are a hundred of you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred, and if a thousand, they will vanquish two thousand, with the leave of Allah. for Allah is with those who patiently persevere.

8:65 O Messenger. rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers: for these are a people without understanding.

MMMM times 2... Hey Twel, sure they are Islamic countries but they are no true Islamic countries or Mu'min Countries (governments), so MUHHH! Who does not govern by ALLAH's rules and the Prophet (PBUH) then they are as good (being polite) as a kafir!

The day will soon come when the truth will rise. ( do not reply because the time has not come... so just wait!)
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Something to reflect on insha-Allah.

“Fear your sins more than you fear the enemy as your sins are more dangerous to you than your enemy. We Muslims are only victorious over our enemy because their sins outnumber ours, not for any other reason. If our sins were equal to those of our enemy, then they would defeat us due to their superior numbers and resources.”

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~Mu'MiNaH~ said:
Something to reflect on insha-Allah.

“Fear your sins more than you fear the enemy as your sins are more dangerous to you than your enemy. We Muslims are only victorious over our enemy because their sins outnumber ours, not for any other reason. If our sins were equal to those of our enemy, then they would defeat us due to their superior numbers and resources.”

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Truly said Sis... That is why You have to be a Mu'min not just a Muslim!
 
R_Mujahed said:
MMMM... Hey Hei, no one said you cannot fight! But you will still get beaten if you are fighting true Muslims, rather Mu'mins...

8:66 For the present, Allah hath lightened your (task), for He knoweth that there is a weak spot in you: But (even so), if there are a hundred of you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred, and if a thousand, they will vanquish two thousand, with the leave of Allah. for Allah is with those who patiently persevere.

8:65 O Messenger. rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers: for these are a people without understanding.
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So are you saying that anyone who DOES get beaten is not a true Moslem? That is a VERY brave viewpoint to take, and almost certainly VERY wrong.
 
The reason the ummah is in shatters is because of US. We let our selves down!
May Allah change our situation for the better.
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R_Mujahed said:
MMMM... Hey Hei, no one said you cannot fight! But you will still get beaten if you are fighting true Muslims, rather Mu'mins...
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But can you fight justly? Is the only way to tell if Muslims are good Muslims to go out and fight the kafir - if you win, you're a good Muslim and what you have done is just, if you don't you're not?
 
HeiGou said:
But can you fight justly? Is the only way to tell if Muslims are good Muslims to go out and fight the kafir - if you win, you're a good Muslim and what you have done is just, if you don't you're not?
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get the principles right!
 
You have to be just. That's what being a Mu'min is all about! Evil people win wars all the time. And mu'mineen have lost a couple of times too, look at uhud. But that was as a test.
 
HeiGou said:
But can you fight justly? Is the only way to tell if Muslims are good Muslims to go out and fight the kafir - if you win, you're a good Muslim and what you have done is just, if you don't you're not?
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:peace:

lol stop readin the middle of the plot and out of context!!! Its what we fight for and why we kil and stuff which matters, intention is everythin!

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~Mu'MiNaH~ said:
The reason the ummah is in shatters is because of US. We let our selves down!
May Allah change our situation for the better.
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Absolutely.

But let us instead change the situation ourselves instead of leaving it to Allah. Rather, let Allah swt give us the strength of faith to allow us to change our situation for the better.

Insh'Allah khyr.
 
HMMMM... Did I seem to forget to mention Mu'min? Both Dishda and Hei are getting it wrong! If you are a Muslim and a Mu'min then you cannot be defeated! If you are a Muslim but not a Mu'min than victory is not guaranteed! I hope it is not too complex to understand full stop
 
R_Mujahed said:
HMMMM... Did I seem to forget to mention Mu'min? Both Dishda and Hei are getting it wrong! If you are a Muslim and a Mu'min then you cannot be defeated! If you are a Muslim but not a Mu'min than victory is not guaranteed! I hope it is not too complex to understand full stop
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brilliant akhee, thats on da SPOT bullzeye hit the nail. If u believe Allah noway u can fail, success will be at every path!
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SubhanAllah, well said akhi Respect yaar [friend] and MashAllah ~Mu'MiNaH~ ukhty and R_Mujaded MashAllah top posts ...Nuff respect going out to yous ;) and yes if i wish to praise or 'encourage' them i shall :) Peace be with ya'll x
 
x Maz x said:
SubhanAllah, well said akhi Respect yaar [friend] and MashAllah ~Mu'MiNaH~ ukhty and R_Mujaded MashAllah top posts ...Nuff respect going out to yous ;) and yes if i wish to praise or 'encourage' them i shall :) Peace be with ya'll x
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Kia Kera Hey Ho? Translating Yaar for me? that is an Insult! Kuo? my dearest friends are Pakistani... I know a thing or 2!

They get me on the Juba/Shawar-Kamis Joke though!
 

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