"Why has Allah forbidden eating Pork?"

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Re: Why Pork Is Haram In Islam

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In case you didn't notice the person asking the question was a CHRISTIAN, not a MUSLIM, therefore appealing to logical and known bad effects of pork will probably help him/her understand better than simply saying 'because God said so'.

There is nothing wrong with thinking about the wisdoms behind why things are forbidden. It helps one to increase in faith.
 
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yeah...obviously 'forbidden' is good enough reason for a muslim!

i dnt knw if the comment was at me snakelegs....but what i meant was source for the facts of why pig meat isnt good for you....u knw the scientific part...

peace!
 
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well, since i'm not a muslim i guess it's really inappropriate for me to argue about this.
when people try to explain things this way, to me it seems that they are on the defensive.
yes, science may back you on reasons why pork is unhealthy. but in the end, you get reasons why pork is unhealthy and not the real reason, which is that it is forbidden by god.
if science said pig is great for you - the healthiest thing you can eat - it wouldn't make a bit of difference, would it? so it really doesn't matter what science has to say.
enough from me. :hiding:
 
Re: Why Pork Is Haram In Islam

well, since i'm not a muslim i guess it's really inappropriate for me to argue about this.
when people try to explain things this way, to me it seems that they are on the defensive.
yes, science may back you on reasons why pork is unhealthy. but in the end, you get reasons why pork is unhealthy and not the real reason, which is that it is forbidden by god.
if science said pig is great for you - the healthiest thing you can eat - it wouldn't make a bit of difference, would it? so it really doesn't matter what science has to say.
enough from me. :hiding:
You are so right! but I think the problem with this forum is that it cant possibly be for purpose of what you or I may have thought.

If it was for its stated purposes these Google scholars would never be allowed to answer queries by by visitors, instead it would be Mods of old, who should be replying instead of these and the kiddie brigade who are more interested in showing of their "modship" and throwing their weight about than actually knowing its meaning and application.

All these googlies do is to hand over the advantage and control of conversation over to the "enquirer" who then proceeds to take them around in circles and we end up humiliated and on defensive.

we need no reason to obey God, we just do it! There were many things prohibited to Israelis as a punishment, so what does that mean?

wa salam
 
Re: Why Pork Is Haram In Islam

Reasons for avoiding pork as food

The Muslims, Jews and some Christian sects reject pork because of prohibitions as revealed in their Holy Books, the Quran and the Bible. God Almighty is all-knowing and our limited knowledge and science cannot as yet understand all the reasons for prohibitions and recommendations contained in the divine guidance and revelations, although we should keep on striving to understand them.

For Muslims, the prohibition of pimgeat was, at first, theoretical as there were no domestic pigs in Hejaz at the time of the revelation of the relevant verses of the Quran, but Islam is a universal religion (din) and was not meant to be limited to any single geographical area. There have been several communities other than Muslims and people of the book (Kitabis) who avoid pork. Among the pre-jewish people, the Egyptians of the dynastic period avoided pork some 2000 years before the codification of the Mosaic food traditions. Subsequently, pork consumption re-appeared among certain classes of Egyptians but avoidance appeared once again before the first Persian conquest (525B.C.)23. In several parts of Ancient Mesopotamia there was an ambiguity with regard to pigs which were considered sacred and unclean at the same time.

Although the Greeks, in general, freely ate pork, there were religious cults in Asia Minor and Crete which avoided this type of meat.24

In more recent times, large non-muslim communities in Africa (south of the Sahara), Central Asia (Mongolia), South-East Asia and Oceania also avoid pork;1 these are mostly pastoral peoples.

Some of the hypotheses which have been advanced to explain the avoidance of pork are as follows:

* Reasons of hygiene and hazards to health.
* The pig is a scavenger and visibly dirty in its habits.
* Pork decays rapidly, especially in warm climates.
* Through eating pork one gains the pig's physical or "personality" characters (This belief is widespread and applies also to many other meats and foods.)
* Human souls transmigrate to various animals including pigs.
* Certain groups have totemic relationship with pigs which may have helped the group in some way in the past, thus becoming sacred.
* Hatred of other human groups which eat pork or at least the desire to remain distinct from them.
* Other reasons including low prestige value, strangeness and psychological feelings of disgust.
* Religious prohibition as illustrated by monotheistic religions has already been mentioned in the first two paragraphs of this section and is a powerful factor in pork avoidance.
The full article with references here :)
 
Re: Why Pork Is Haram In Islam

well, since i'm not a muslim i guess it's really inappropriate for me to argue about this.
when people try to explain things this way, to me it seems that they are on the defensive.
yes, science may back you on reasons why pork is unhealthy. but in the end, you get reasons why pork is unhealthy and not the real reason, which is that it is forbidden by god.
if science said pig is great for you - the healthiest thing you can eat - it wouldn't make a bit of difference, would it? so it really doesn't matter what science has to say.
enough from me. :hiding:

Of course you are right, but I don't see why you are arguing this because the first thing the artcile did was say that Allah forbade it.
 
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If it was for its stated purposes these Google scholars would never be allowed to answer queries by by visitors, instead it would be Mods of old, who should be replying instead of these and the kiddie brigade who are more interested in showing of their "modship" and throwing their weight about than actually knowing its meaning and application.

All these googlies do is to hand over the advantage and control of conversation over to the "enquirer" who then proceeds to take them around in circles and we end up humiliated and on defensive.

This is a totally baseless attack. Fear Allah before you slander and ridicule other members.

The moderators are no more knowledgeable than normal members on this forum. Just because they have to right to delete comments or whatever, doesn't mean that they are scholars themselves.

In case you haven't noticed, the moderators use the same sources as most other members here.
 
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It might be, that Porc Meat is haram, but that doesn't change the fact, that I know a bunch of muslims who work in a supermarket in Town, who enjoy eating BBQ Porc Steaks. But hey, they just do it at night, pretending, Allah cannot see them, when it is dark. :D
 
Re: Why Pork Is Haram In Islam

It might be, that Porc Meat is haram, but that doesn't change the fact, that I know a bunch of muslims who work in a supermarket in Town, who enjoy eating BBQ Porc Steaks. But hey, they just do it at night, pretending, Allah cannot see them, when it is dark. :D

There are black sheeps in every community, so dont judge islam by the muslims, judge it by its teachings. And even if you decide to judge Islam by the muslims, then look into the life of Muhammad :arabic5:.
 
Re: Why Pork Is Haram In Islam

This is a totally baseless attack. Fear Allah before you slander and ridicule other members.

The moderators are no more knowledgeable than normal members on this forum. Just because they have to right to delete comments or whatever, doesn't mean that they are scholars themselves.

In case you haven't noticed, the moderators use the same sources as most other members here.
ignorant people have no right to be advising anyone, all they do is; invite ridicule from monkeys like guebano at best or mislead true seekers at worst.

Mods like al-madani, ansar and qatada may or may not have been scholars but they gave a very good impression. they did not hand over control of threads to trolls by rushing to islam qa and fetching any old article that had slightest of resemblance to the question.

they sifted through thread after thread of resources for hours to come up with a coherent reply that made sense and they made minute amount of mistakes, thus commanded respect for Islam and themselves.

also notice how Sisters Al-Mu'minah and al-Muwahida (both mods) conduct themselves once they arrive in a thread? They take charge of it and remove all rubbish from trolls and googly shayukh and they see the thread safely to its conclusion to the satisfaction of genuine seeker.
 
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ignorant people have no right to be advising anyone, all they do is; invite ridicule from monkys like guebano at best or mislead true seekers at worst.

Mods like al-madani, ansar and qatada may not have been scholars but they gave a very good impression. they did not hand over control of threads to troll by rushing to islam qa and fetching any old article that had slightest of resemblance to the question.

they sifted through thread after thread of resources for hours to come up with a coherent reply that made sense and they made minute amount of mistakes, thus commanded respect for Islam and themselves.

can we not get into an argument which has nothing to do with the topic of this thread? i hope this thread doesnt get closed just because one forgets the hadith to restrain the toung!
 
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can we not get into an argument which has nothing to do with the topic of this thread? i hope this thread doesnt get closed just because one forgets the hadith to restrain the toung!
So you would rather prefer that this site keep turning in to pit of darkness and ignorance? turns in to playground for kafir kiddies who mostly come here to bait the googlers and have fun at expense of Islam?
 
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So you would rather prefer that this site keep turning in to pit of darkness and ignorance? turns in to playground for kafir kiddies who mostly come here to bait the googlers and have fun at expense of Islam?

as i said, this has nothing to do with the topic and incase ur your posts were directed to me cuz ur claiming me to use "sheikh google" then ur judging a book by its cover and aimlessly harming muslims by ur toung, fear Allah before because the prophet (saw) said a muslim should be safe by ur toung and hands.

you dont know where i got this information from, so please can we stop the arguments because this is really pointless, what do u intend to get out of this argument?
 
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Hey salam, i came accross a bunch of videis that show you worms crawling out of the pork chops when you pour coca cola on it. YUK
 
Re: Why Pork Is Haram In Islam

It might be, that Porc Meat is haram, but that doesn't change the fact, that I know a bunch of muslims who work in a supermarket in Town, who enjoy eating BBQ Porc Steaks. But hey, they just do it at night, pretending, Allah cannot see them, when it is dark. :D

Just because some muslims do it still doesn't change the fact that it is haram.
 
Pork Is Haram In Islam because The God Says So

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So you would rather prefer that this site keep turning in to pit of darkness and ignorance? turns in to playground for kafir kiddies who mostly come here to bait the googlers and have fun at expense of Islam?
as i said, this has nothing to do with the topic and incase ur your posts were directed to me cuz ur claiming me to use "sheikh google" then ur judging a book by its cover and aimlessly harming muslims by ur toung, fear Allah before because the prophet (saw) said a muslim should be safe by ur toung and hands.

you dont know where i got this information from, so please can we stop the arguments because this is really pointless, what do u intend to get out of this argument?
had I been talking to you, would I have been quoting someone else's posts?

If we insist on logical reasons for not eating pork rather than obeying Allah, then lets talk about chicken. every body eats those dirty salmonella + flue laden ***cannibals/meat + excrement** eaters.

** if free range
*** free range or battery

wa salaam
 
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Hmm, check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtmD2UHn8L8

Under 5 minute lecture on why its haram.

Simply, its unclean and not healthy.

Here is another persons statement:

The pig is a scavenger. It is an omnivorous animal. It eats everything. There are many diseases carried from swine to man, particularly parasite infestations. Lately extensive research has been focused on senility-old age is characterized by hardening of inner lining of the blood vessels of the heart, brain etc. a process called atheroselerosis. When a clot forms, it results in coronary thrombosis or a heart attack, cerebral thrombosis or stroke.

Different dietary factors are responsible for atheroselerosis. Gross atheroma may be produced in rabbit by feeding it with cholesterol, but when you add lard (derived from hog fat) to the cholesterol, the incidence of atheroma is increased and thus you would produce coronary thrombosis, and myocardial infraction.

Besides, lard contains 2800 units of vitamin D per 100 grams and no vitamin A at all. Lately vitamin D has been held responsible for atheroma, by causing increased absorption of calcium in the blood vessels. In human beings, serum cholesterol is not dependent on the intake of cholesterol in the diet, but depends upon the proportion of animal fats in the diet, which elevates the beta-lipo protein level in the blood. Animal fats contain saturated fatty acids and these saturated fatty acids have been found to be as one of the causes of atheroma in man. Medium fat bacon contains 25% proteins and 55% fat.

According to medical research, the fat content in pork is more than any other meat (beef, mutton etc.) and it takes longer to digest. Dr. M Jaffer in an article in the Islamic Review (London) of January 1997 issue has listed 16 kinds of harmful germs, which have been discovered in pork in modern researches and the diseases, which could be caused by them. The number of patients suffering from tapeworm disease is the highest in the world among pork eating nations. Other diseases attributed to pigs are caused by tri-chinelia spirates and intestinal worms occupy first place among such nations too.

Dr. Glen Shepherd wrote the following on the dangers of eating pork in Washington Post (31 May 1952).

"One in six people in USA and Canada have germs in their muscles - trichinosis 8 from eating pork infected with trichina worms. Many people who are infected shows no symptoms. Most of those, who do have, recover slowly. Some die; some are reduced to permanent invalids. All were careless pork caters".

He continued "No one is immune from the disease and there is no cure. Neither antibiotics nor drugs or vaccines affect these tiny deadly worms. Preventing infection is the real answer."

After reading the statement of Dr. Shepherd, one can realize that there is no real guarantee of safety when eating pork that one would not be affected by trichina worm. That is why modern doctors advise three prohibitions during illness: no liquor, no pork and no smoking.

Jews also prohibit pork.

Many things acquire bacteria by poor handling and some thing are by nature impure and bacteria prone- like scavengers.
 
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Pork Is Haram In Islam because The God Says So

I still insist we do not eat pork Because Allah prohibited it [(except in extreme cases for survival) no amount of nosense resoning is going to sway my belief in hikmah of Allah]



Forbidden to you are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than God; that which hath been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by being gored to death; that which hath been eaten by a wild animal; unless you are able to slaughter it; that which is sacrificed on stone; also is the division by raffling with arrows: that is impiety. This day have those who reject faith given up all hope of your religion: yet fear them not but fear me. This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed my favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. But if any is forced by hunger, with no inclination to transgression, God is indeed Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

(5:3)
 
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