Yes yes yes wohoooooo he stepped down, armed forces to take control of egypt

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well we did it :D , thanks to every1 who prayed for us .
we have a lot of cleaning up to do starting with our ... ehm glorious police force
lets hope we can get a just and pious leader for our country

May Egypt always get the best!
MashaAllah Egyptian people are working rly hard on streets today morning. May Allah bless them, its amazing to see people cooperating with each other!
 

there is at least one other factor that USA protects at any cost: Israel.

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At the moment, that appears to be the case. However, recently, some Americans dislike that the US government gives too much aid to Israel. Some even consider Israel a strategic liability and believe Israel should be treated like any other country.

There might be a possibility in the future that the US will stop supporting Israel but this is very unlikely due to AIPAC influence.
 
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At the moment, that appears to be the case. However, recently, some Americans dislike that the US government gives too much aid to Israel. Some even consider Israel a strategic liability and believe Israel should be treated like any other country.

There might be a possibility in the future that the US will stop supporting Israel but this is very unlikely due to AIPAC influence.

Asalaamu Alaikum, a few politicians not liking Americas relationship with Israel does not mean anything. Israel is heavily funding the US and that is why their lobby groups are so powerful in America. Both America and Israel are working together to achieve their agenda's. Israels agenda is that they want zion and America wants world domination. Simple as that. The Muslims and now China stand in their way of achieving their ultimate goals. They may plot and scheme but Allah is the best of plotters.
 
Asalaamu Alaikum, a few politicians not liking Americas relationship with Israel does not mean anything. Israel is heavily funding the US and that is why their lobby groups are so powerful in America. Both America and Israel are working together to achieve their agenda's. Israels agenda is that they want zion and America wants world domination. Simple as that. The Muslims and now China stand in their way of achieving their ultimate goals. They may plot and scheme but Allah is the best of plotters.

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I never said politicians, I meant some members of the public are questioning their relationship with Israel. Not many spoke against the Israel lobby until the Iraq war.

So, there might be a very small possibility that, if many Americans dislike giving aid to Israel, the US government, may treat Israel like any other country. However, this is very unlikely but I prefer to keep all the possibilities open.
 
not entirely true.
Oil is still flowing from Iran, and yet the USA is trying hard to destabilize Iran and wants to change Iran leaderships.

I don't think you can really look at it country by country. The perception of Iran (rightly or wrongly) is that it might constitute a threat to regional stability. Any sort of armed conflict with Israel, even of a limited nature, would have a huge effect on oil availability and price (just as the 1973 war did).
 
So, there might be a very small possibility that, if many Americans dislike giving aid to Israel, the US government, may treat Israel like any other country. However, this is very unlikely but I prefer to keep all the possibilities open.

I think this will happen sooner rather than later. Israel has a habit of doing crazy things and one day they will be more of a hindrance to America than a benefit.
 
I don't think you can really look at it country by country. The perception of Iran (rightly or wrongly) is that it might constitute a threat to regional stability. Any sort of armed conflict with Israel, even of a limited nature, would have a huge effect on oil availability and price (just as the 1973 war did).

I think there is already instability in that region...well it depends on what you mean by stability.

It is very unlikely Iran will attack Israel. What makes you think Iran will attack Israel? Or do you mean Israel will attack Iran?

If Iran obtains nuclear weapons, I think there will be a balance of power in the region, even though the Arab countries, Israel and some western countries dislike this.
 
on a side note.. so many of you have been so generous and genuine sharing in my happiness and unfortunately I haven't been able to repay all your generous reps. I have been trying to do it in order from the bottom up otherwise new ones erase the old ones and I have no clue who I missed.. sry I have been remiss, and I don't want to make it seem like any of you are waiting for reps. but do wish to thank you in person...

Jazakoum Allah khyran..
 
We celebrate with you for the sake of Allah (swt), may His ummah be victorious. Please, post here the video of salah as I so enjoyed it.
 
me too..

enjoy the sight of your brothers and sisters loving what you love!
 
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I never said politicians, I meant some members of the public are questioning their relationship with Israel. Not many spoke against the Israel lobby until the Iraq war.

So, there might be a very small possibility that, if many Americans dislike giving aid to Israel, the US government, may treat Israel like any other country. However, this is very unlikely but I prefer to keep all the possibilities open.

There will always be those who question this "special" relationship but it will fall on deaf ears. In order for Israel and the US to achieve their ultimate agenda's they need each other. Israel provides the United States with military bases and a presence in the Middle East that can shape international borders disputes between Israel and Palestine and conflicts the United States is engaged in. The US has a presence in the middle of the Islamic world in Israel and by working together they believe they can achieve each others agenda's.
 
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There will always be those who question this "special" relationship but it will fall on deaf ears.

The future is quite unpredictable and who knows, the relationship between these two countries, might collapse.

In order for Israel and the US to achieve their ultimate agenda's they need each other.

What agenda?

I agree, Israel needs US military and financial support.

Israel provides the United States with military bases and a presence in the Middle East that can shape international borders disputes between Israel and Palestine and conflicts the United States is engaged in.

Yes, there are military bases in the Middle East. Do you have evidence to suggest that Israel provides/maintains these military bases?

I doubt the US needs Israel to maintain these bases, so if you have evidence, I would like to see it.

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on a side note.. so many of you have been so generous and genuine sharing in my happiness and unfortunately I haven't been able to repay all your generous reps. I have been trying to do it in order from the bottom up otherwise new ones erase the old ones and I have no clue who I missed.. sry I have been remiss, and I don't want to make it seem like any of you are waiting for reps. but do wish to thank you in person...

Jazakoum Allah khyran..

It must be refreshing for the Egyptian people to overthrow Mubarak.
 
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Of course the future is very unpredictable but the US and Israel have to maintain their ties in order to achieve each others agendas.

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What agenda? This will be a good starting point.

Why else would the US heavily fund Israel?

American Israeli Public Affair Committee (AIPAC). AIPAC puts pressure on the US government to shape its foreign policy to favour Israel. This lobby ensures that US politicians continue to support Israel, otherwise, AIPAC will damage these politicians reputation through the mainstream media which will have a negative impact on their election campaign.

For more information:

ISRAEL LOBBY AND US FOREIGN POLICY

ISRAEL LOBBY DOCUMENTARY


The US will not benefit from taking a hostile stance against Iran. The only reason the US is taking an aggressive stance against Iran is because of the lobby.

They do have a base in Israel:

US bases powerful radar in Israel

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7641570.stm

I should make myself clear. There are US military bases in the Middle East, like in Iraq and in Saudi Arabia (I think the US military bases are removed from Saudi Arabia but I'm not sure).

Supported US locations in the Middle East

^ My question should have been, does Israel maintain these bases?

I conclude that Israel is not a useful ally to America. Israel and AIPAC are putting pressure on the US government to take a hostile stance against Iran and Syria and pressured the US government to attack Iraq in 2003. Within AIPAC, there are some who believe the US should also attack Saudi Arabia, Libya and Egypt.

America will not benefit from all these wars...neither will Israel. This means, there is a possibility that in America, the public might put pressure on the government to break its ties with Israel, because US hasn't got a lot to benefit from Israel, especially, if it puts pressure on the US to attack these countries...but this is very unlikely.

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Sorry, we are off topic. Shall we create a new topic?
 
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Egyptian Warriors :) Alhamdulillah, May Allah Azzawajal grant the martyrs the highest rank in Jannah, Ameen, Ameen!

I now hope the army, who seem to be up America's backside listen to the demands of the Egyptian public and give POWER to the people. If they do, The end is nigh for Israhell, They will get the taste of their own medicine, but WORSE InshAllah Azzawajal

Next stop, SAUDI ARABIA And ALGERIA. To hell with these dictators
 
only very high ranking egyptian army personnel may still be up someone's backside.. but believe me the rest are conscripted of the people and they truly represent the people.. we love them so.. all my uncles with the exception of one were in the army and many of my cousins.. like the people on the streets said.. the army and the people are one hand.. and it is true.. at least we hope insha'Allah
 
the hard work isn't done yet. its only starting and if there's no good leader there, then its Mubarak all over again. we must keep Egypt in our duas for Allah to put a god fearing person over them for leadership.
 
if it is going to be one of those secular people the west is pushing for then we're screwed like el barad3i or 3mr musa.. el barad3i is a joke as is he hasn't lived in Egypt that opportunist he just came in to piggy back on something that started without him.. we need scholars to run for this.. people who know the true law and are politically savvy .. and the west should stay out.. they should keep out. .. where the hell were they before if they truly cared about Egypt?
 

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