Yes yes yes wohoooooo he stepped down, armed forces to take control of egypt

[جوري]

there are so many sects abound.

There are no sects in Egypt.. 90% of the country are sunni Muslim and 10% christians who have co-existed for millenniums except now with the leadership of the formerly imprisoned shenuda who is the devil's son in our midst.. If Egyptians would simply as they've done in the revolution which the west didn't want to see to fruition would simply seal off their country to these foreign influences and establish their khalifate we'd be the old empire we once were.. but I doubt with this much infiltration in the country where the devil truly has his tentacles that, that kind of radical change would happen yet.. as is they're pushing the drunkard amr musa, and the other sellout al-bard3i who has been outside of Egypt for 30+ yrs or other idiots of the likes.. it is as if they threw away the old regime on paper but can't rid themselves of the same disgusting recycled individuals and out there (those proclaiming friendship) are singing about the billion dollar they allegedly give and the money Egypt makes from tourism.. Well the billion dollar didn't help the Egyptians any, in fact it was blood money.. that is the price paid to imprison and murder Muslims without trial.. and tourism doesn't have to come from the cheap and cheesy twits of the west who make a negligible portion of the world's population!

fact of the matter is, if they divided Mubarak's fortune on every Egyptian each individual would be a millionaire..

I want these western turds to stay the hell out of Egypt.. it is in a very fragile state and they just want to suck its blood some more...

the only thing we can offer again is simply our du3a and that it trickles down on the ummah just the same so we can take each other's hands and rise again.. look how long it took them to dismantle the Ottoman's and look how long it has taken us to wake up!

 

[CosmicPathos]

There are no sects in Egypt.. 90% of the country are sunni Muslim and 10% christians who have co-existed for millenniums except now with the leadership of the formerly imprisoned shenuda who is the devil's son in our midst.. If Egyptians would simply as they've done in the revolution which the west didn't want to see to fruition would simply seal off their country to these foreign influences and establish their khalifate we'd be the old empire we once were.. but I doubt with this much infiltration in the country where the devil truly has his tentacles that, that kind of radical change would happen yet.. as is they're pushing the drunkard amr musa, and the other sellout al-bard3i who has been outside of Egypt for 30+ yrs or other idiots of the likes.. it is as if they threw away the old regime on paper but can't rid themselves of the same disgusting recycled individuals and out there (those proclaiming friendship) are singing about the billion dollar they allegedly give and the money Egypt makes from tourism.. Well the billion dollar didn't help the Egyptians any, in fact it was blood money.. that is the price paid to imprison and murder Muslims without trial.. and tourism doesn't have to come from the cheap and cheesy twits of the west who make a negligible portion of the world's population!

fact of the matter is, if they divided Mubarak's fortune on every Egyptian each individual would be a millionaire..

I want these western turds to stay the hell out of Egypt.. it is in a very fragile state and they just want to suck its blood some more...

the only thing we can offer again is simply our du3a and that it trickles down on the ummah just the same so we can take each other's hands and rise again.. look how long it took them to dismantle the Ottoman's and look how long it has taken us to wake up!

Indeed. I am sure Israel was hard at work through its networks to actually direct the movement in Egypt according to its agenda. Also that mubarak sob used that time while he kept saying that hell get down in next elections to finish off any last minute jobs that his master israel had asked him to do. People should have descended upon his palace the very same day and ripped it down to shards.

This stupid Graeco-Turkish girl in my group, who happened to spend 3-4 years in Saudi while her parents were working there, was saying stupid things about Muslim brothers and sisters in Saudi to our mentor. "There is no privacy, if you are ill, the whole community knows what disease you have. You have no autonomy in Saudi arabia." I wanted to slap her so hard .... she was whining like a b***

 

[جوري]

Indeed. I am sure Israel was hard at work through its networks to actually direct the movement in Egypt according to its agenda. Also that mubarak sob used that time while he kept saying that hell get down in next elections to finish off any last minute jobs that his master israel had asked him to do. People should have descended upon his palace the very same day and ripped it down to shards. This stupid Graeco-Turkish girl in my group, who happened to spend 3-4 years in Saudi while her parents were working there, was saying stupid things about Muslim brothers and sisters in Saudi to our mentor. "There is no privacy, if you are ill, the whole

community knows what disease you have. You have no autonomy in Saudi arabia." I wanted to slap her so hard .... she was whining like a b***

Yeah.. I read alot of crap that bugs me daily.. believe me the kaffirs on this board are heavenly compared to what is encountered out there even from alleged Muslims.. but I trust that everything will work out according to Allah swt's plan .. I believe that good is obvious but becomes jaded to many with all the distortions that are dispensed around the clock and at this crucial time.. but I trust that if the intentions are pure, then Allah swt is with that majority.. how many a small host has overcome a mighty one by God's will?

let's do our part with du3a insha'Allah and believe in the divine decree..

 

[Rhubarb Tart]

"There is no privacy, if you are ill, the whole community knows what disease you have. You have no autonomy in Saudi arabia." I wanted to slap her so hard .... she was whining like a b***

Salam


If that is true, I dont see any thing wrong with what she said. If she is lied then that would be a different matter.


I do hope Egypt get a fair leader who follows shariah ishallah

 

[GuestFellow]

If the Caliphate were to be established in Egypt, how would it occur? Will it be introduced gradually?

 

[Pygoscelis]

That's what democracy is supposed to do - establish what the Majority want.

And that is my point. Such a democracy would be short lived, as the people would simply vote to end democracy.

BTW lets not confuse democracy with the interventions of the west. Democracy is an ideal which essentially boils down to the popular vote being in control instead of a king or unelected council, or religious order.

As was said above, it will be interesting to see if after forcing out the previous regime and fighting to make their voices heard they then silence themselves voluntarily by sweeping away the concept of democracy just because the word is distasteful to them due to its association with the west.

Egyptian democracy need not have anything to do with western "democracy". The question is do people wish to be in control through their own representatives or subjugate themselves to a new ruler. Perhaps the former, or given the culture, perhaps the latter.

 

[جوري]

If the Caliphate were to be established in Egypt, how would it occur? Will it be introduced gradually?

There was a conference today about the distoor and it is unanimous that it is Islamic.. however that only applies to the courts/judicial system but not much else for now.. we'll see how the rest goes insha'Allah.. but at least that is a start and in fact I believe that it was mostly implemented before with a few interferences here and there ..

 

[CosmicPathos]

Salam


If that is true, I dont see any thing wrong with what she said. If she is lied then that would be a different matter.


I do hope Egypt get a fair leader who follows shariah ishallah

Do you have reading comprehension skills? That is exactly what I am saying that she is lying. I was never forced to publicly announce what diseases I had the whole time I lived in Saudi.

And btw, the concept of patient autonomy and consent arise from reinterpretation of Western philosophy. Even in the West, 50 years ago, a paternalistic doctor was considered to be a good doctor! So please, read the history of how the thought (complete patient autonomy with no input from family members especially parents), which it seems you have made to be your deity, evolved in the West in the last 30 years.

Do you know that the thought you are promoting so desperately goes against Islamic principles? Do you know that under patient autonomy, a patient has the right to ask for euthanasia? it is allowed in some European country. I can forsee that in next 20 years, euthanasia will be acceptable in Canada as well. Right now passive euthanasia is practiced everywhere which basically means taht you let go of life-prolonging treatment and let the disease take its natural course which is of course death. Some islamic scholars have said that this is allowed, for example Sheikh Munajjid and Bilal Philips etc in regards to signing a Do Not Resuscitate (DNR) form. But then Sheikh Munajjid has also allowed women to undergo breast augmentation surgery for cosmetic purposes!

Where does Islam tell to loose hope? Rather Prophet told us to seek medicine. To let go of treatment just because it will not benefit is like saying you know the future and know for sure that death is inevitable. Are you God?

Anyways you made me go off-topic. You are already known as a snotty person on these boards. Ill spare you rational argumentation.

 

[MustafaMc]

I heard an ayat today that I thought was pertinent to this discussion 58:10 "Indeed, malicious private discourse is prompted by Shaytan to grieve those who believe. Yet never shall he harm them in anything, except by the permission of Allah. So upon Allah alone let the believers rely." Those who are scheming to manipulate the situation in Egypt against the good of the people can only succeed to the extent that Allah (swt) has willed.

 

[titus]

There was a conference today about the distoor and it is unanimous that it is Islamic..

Can you post any links concerning this and who was involved?

 

[جوري]

Can you post any links concerning this and who was involved?

http://www.almasry-alyoum.com/

knock yourself out


أكد فضيلة الدكتور أحمد الطيب شيخ الأزهر أن مصر دولة إسلامية بشهادة الواقع وبنص الدستور، مؤكدا أن طبيعة الدولة الإسلامية هي طبيعة مدنية وليست طائفية على النحو الذي عرفته أوربا في القرون الوسطى.

ووفق ما نقلت صحيفة "المصريون" قال الطيب أن كون مصر دولة إسلامية لا يعني أي إهدار لحقوق الطوائف والديانات الأخرى ، بل الإسلام معني بالدفاع عن تلك الحقوق للآخرين وحفظ أنفسهم وممتلكاته وحماية دور عبادتهم بموجب أحكام القرآن الكريم ذاته ، وبنفس القدر الذي نحمي به المساجد.

وفي معرض إجابته على سؤال عن النص الدستوري الذي يثير البعض حوله الجدل من أن مصر دولة إسلامية ، قال الطيب : طبعا دولة إسلامية ، هل هي ـ مصر ـ غير ذلك ، وإذا لم تكن مصر إسلامية فماذا تسميها ، ويجب أن تفرق بين الدولة الإسلامية المدنية وبين الدولة الدينية الثيوقراطية التي لا يعرفها تاريخ الإسلام والمسلمين .

وأضاف الطيب قوله: هناك دساتير أوربية عديدة تنص على أن المسيحية دين الدولة ، والنص الدستوري على أن مصر دولة إسلامية تعبير عن هوية مجتمع وهوية دولة لها ثقل في المنطقة، والمنطقة منطقة إسلامية.

وأعاد الطيب تأكيده بصورة استنكارية ردا على التحرش بإسلامية مصر فقال من جديد مكررا كلامه: إذا لم تكن مصر عربية إسلامية فماذا تكون؟ وماذا يحدث لدورها في العالم العربي والإسلامي ؟ إنك إذا أسقطت عن مصر الإسلام والعروبة فكأنك تنزع عنها جلدها وأصلها.

وقال الطيب أن هناك مفكرين وقانونيين أقباط درسوا هذه المسألة وأكدوا على أن الشريعة الإسلامية لا تمثل أي مساس بحقوق الأقليات أو الطوائف الأخرى، وبالتالي فكون مصر دولة إسلامية وتطبيق الشريعة لا يمس أبدا بحقوق إخواننا الأقباط.

وأضاف شيخ الأزهر قوله: أنا هنا أكرر ما قاله أحد كبار رجال الدين المسيحي الذي قال: أنا تحميني الشريعة الإسلامية والأزهر أكثر مما يحميني أي دستور مكتوب.

وقال فضيلة الشيخ:إن المسلمين في مصر لا يقبلون أن يرجعوا في تنظيم حياتهم لغير أحكام الشريعة، وإذا أهدرنا أحكام الشريعة فهل تريدونا مثلا أن نستورد من الغرب أحكام الميراث والزواج، هذا أسميه عبثا بهويتنا، وأحب أن أقول أن كبار رجال القانون من الإخوة الأقباط كانوا مشاركين في صياغة دساتير مصر جميعا، منذ دستور 1923 وحتى الآن ، وجميعهم قبلوا النص على أن دين الدولة هو الإسلام .

وأكد فضيلة شيخ الأزهر في حواره المهم الذي نشرته مجلة المصور أن الأخوة بين المسلمين والأقباط في مصر هي واجب ديني وضرورة حياة وهي عميقة وراسخة عبر التاريخ والعيش تحت ظل وطن واحد، مشيرا إلى أن الانفعالات والأحداث الطائفية التي تقع هنا أو هناك هي عارضة ومنبعها الجهل، مشيرا إلى أن العلاقات بين القيادات الدينية في الكنيسة والأزهر علاقات طيبة تحفها الأخوة والاحترام المتبادل.

< السابق التالي > http://www.islamstory.com/مصر-دولة-اسلامية-بشهادة-الواقع-وبنص-الدستور



all the best

 

[titus]

I am looking over the English version online and cannot find it. Would you have a more direct link? Or possible more information on this that you can post?

 

[جوري]

I am looking over the English version online and cannot find it. Would you have a more direct link? Or possible more information on this that you can post?

Egypt is an Islamic, Arabic speaking country.. chances are our internal affairs will be in Arabic.. why not try google translator? stick that chunk into it and see what comes of it-- and pass it off to the CIA .. I am sure the news is rather upsetting as was the end result of that revolt..

all the best

 

[titus]

Actually the English version has lots of articles about Egypts internal affairs, so that theory doesn't seem to hold water. You can't even mention who was at this conference?

 

[جوري]

Actually the English version has lots of articles about Egypts internal affairs, so that theory doesn't seem to hold water. You can't even mention who was at this conference?

if you can find alot of Egypt's affairs in English then by all means why are you wasting my time asking for articles?

It is there and sourced for all to see (sticking it into google translator) isn't that difficult-- whose name do you want? are familiar with Egyptians outside of Mubarak's circle? you're familiar with the azahris, our scholars and judges? .. if you don't like the above because it bothers your western sensibilities then skip it and buzz off-- believe me when I say it doesn't bother me one way or the other what you think so long as Egypt runs its affairs on Islam not confined only to its distoor.. but we're yet to see insha'Allah..


all the best

 

[titus]

I am just asking a simple question. If answering it bothers you then simply say so.

 

[جوري]

I am just asking a simple question. If answering it bothers you then simply say so.

and I have answered you with two links and the piece that I have read to get my info. The only one ready to burst at the seams here is you!
hope you take it as well when every facet of the country turns Islamic insha'Allah..

all the best

 

[titus]

I appreciate your help. Reading the English version of the site has been eye opening.

 

[Ummu Sufyaan]

Well, no theocracy has ever worked either. Any country that rules with a religion twists the religion.

yes it did. Medina at the time of the prophet, sallahu alehi wa sallam.

 

[Darth Ultor]

*rolls eyes* You know exactly what I mean. The Christian monarchs and the Catholic church in the Middle-Ages, the Wahhabi clerics in KSA after the fall of the Ottoman Empire, the Taliban, the Iranian Mullahs.