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Re: If a married person commits adultery and they many years later are accused of adu

truthseeker63 said:
If a married person commits adultery and they many years later are accused of adultery by one person they never met in their life and the person doesn't have 4 or four witnessess and they go to a Sharia Court should the person who commited adultery admit confess or tell the Judge they did it even if there is no evidence or proof they did it but they know in their mind that they did it ? The reason I ask this question is because I thought that lying was a sin in Islam but I was always told that Muslims try to hide cover up or keep their sins secret if so is it haram to lie to try to save your life ? Thee are people out there who would lie about commiting adultery. I always was told that telling a white lie is not a sin is it halal ? Also please answer me this question if a Man was beating his Wife next door and or trying to kill her or attack her and this Woman came to your door to hide from him and you let her hide then her Husband comes to the door and asks where is his Wife is would you lie to him or tell the truth ? If you lived in Europe during World War 2 and a Jewish Family wanted to hide in your home and you let them and then the Nazis come to the door and asked you if you allowing Jews to hide in your home would you lie to the Nazis ?
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Firstly, if there is not 4 trustworthy EYE witness [who saw the action themselves] present in the court, the punishment cannot be implemented. The person can do self confession as the Prophet [saw] said that whoever is punished in this world would not be punished in the Hereafter - however he is not obliged to confess.

As for lying in the court room, i dont know. However, he does not need to deny it or confess [although confessing would ultimately be better]. He can remain silent. The judge does not need to ask him 'did you do it'. The shariah punishments is mostly a deterrent and should be avoided by the judge as much as possible. we learn this from the Nabi [saw] how a person confessed to adultery and the Nabi [saw] ignored him, but the man kept confessing...

As for lying to protect a Muslim from another Muslim- i dont know. I will find out inshaaAllaah.

As for lying to save a Muslims life from a Kaafir enemy - it is obliged to lie in that situation. in fat if you tell the truth it could be a form of allying with a Kaafir against Muslim

As for lying for a Kaafir, i dont see how that would be allowed - but maybe someone else can shed light with evidences.

Hope i answered at least some of your questions
 
Re: Is being proud of your ethnic group allowed in Islam ?

It may not be asabiyya to talk in your mother tongue while with a group of people and excluding others from the convo - however it is not a good gesture of brotherhood/sisterhood. It is a sign of brotherhood/sisterhood to include everyone in the convo [or atleast make sure no one in the group is being left out].

There is actually a hadeeth regading this...maybe someone who knows it can post it?
 
Re: Is being proud of your ethnic group allowed in Islam ?

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It depends on what your motive is in being proud. You can certainly embrace your ethnic group/culture as one of the many ethnic groups and cultures Allah (swt) has created. But on that basis alone, it is futile to think you are better than anyone else because every soul must taste death and we will be held to account on the Day of Judgement for our deeds (with correct intention), not for what our skin colour is or what language we speak.

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Re: Is being proud of your ethnic group allowed in Islam ?

Dying Rose said:


There's nothing wrong with the points made in the article. It's promoting consideration for others to curtail ethnic pride which causes people to feel distant from other muslims. Forget the professional workplace. It's requirements aren't based on Shariah. So it's not Islam telling us to speak English to succeed there. The key message given in the article is of consideration - of not making your brother feel excluded due to ethnic differences. It's not saying you must never speak in your own tongue if foreign-tongued brothers are present - that might not be possible if you don't know their language or your knowledge of their language is limited. The same may apply to them. So this is a complex issue as there can be so many people from different ethnic backgrounds in one gathering. It's only when a person deliberately ignores others, and makes no effort to make them feel welcome because they are not the same as them, that we can say they are truly affected by asabiyya. But who's saying communication begins and ends with verbal speech? The smallest gesture, be it a warm smile, a solid hand shake, or an invitation to sit next to you, can speak volumes and promote love in the hearts of the believers. That is the deeper message the article was hoping to portray.


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I totally understand what you are trying to say. I also would not want to malign other Muslims in convo who dont speak my language. So how do you reckon we can accommodate everyone? By speaking English so that everyone understands? But what if I hate English language, and do not want to speak in this language? Not going into details regarding why I "hate" the language, why not make Arabic the unifying language (considering it is the language of Quran and hence we can use that as a starting point for making it a global language for Muslims) and speak in Arabic order to accommodate others rather than in English?
 
Re: Is being proud of your ethnic group allowed in Islam ?

^You'd have to get the millions of native Arabic speakers themselves to speak in Standard Arabic (اللغة العربية الفصحى‎) only, i.e. no accent whatsoever and very slowly lol. But inshaAllah, one day.
 
Re: Is being proud of your ethnic group allowed in Islam ?

well, English is also spoken in different dialects. irish, scottish, welsh, american, canadian, british, aussie. still it is understood by everyone.
 
Re: Is being proud of your ethnic group allowed in Islam ?

Well if you think you can fully understand someone with a Glaswegian dialect, I salute you lol.
 
Re: If a married person commits adultery and they many years later are accused of adu

If you don't get caught doing it, you should repent and hide your sins (as long as they're not directly effecting other people)
 
Re: If a married person commits adultery and they many years later are accused of adu

I don't think you need to answer or explain anything unless there are witnesses or some hard proof. I mean how would you even end up in court if there was no evidence against you? If you were in court I would recommend doing this:


As for the hiding people who fear for their lives; well technically that would be saving a life and life is more important.
 
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If Gay People stop being Gay and become Straight People ?

If Gay People stop being Gay and become Straight People and they become Muslims if no one knew about their past life and they said Shahadah in let us say in a Western Country or Nation and in the future this Western Nation becomes an Islamic State under the Sharia Law should this Ex Gay Person who was Homosexual as a Non Muslim should he be killed for his or her sin ? I would like to know Non Muslims who were once Adulterers and or People who used to steal in the past should their hand be cut off I ask this because I'll read that many People who did bad things became Muslims like Malcolm X what about Murder or is Murder punished like it is in the Secular United States were Murderers get the death penalty in many areas ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahada
 
Re: If Gay People stop being Gay and become Straight People ?

Salam,

my goodness, there's so much of should this or that person be killed. :hmm:
 
Re: If Gay People stop being Gay and become Straight People ?

just saying...
 
Re: If Gay People stop being Gay and become Straight People ?

lol yes hypothetical questions should be avoided, however I think this question is ok to ask - well I think i understood your question.

You are asking if someone done a crime while being non Muslim and that deserves an Islamic punishment, would he still be punished when the Islamic State is established?

I dont think it would be possible to prove the person guilty [or highly unlikely]. Self confession is not needed as this persons sins would have been forgiven by Allaah as soon as he became Muslim...Usually trustworthy witnesses are needed, I dont see why trustworthy witnesses would witness to a sin of a revert...

im not giving a definite answer by the way, just giving other things to consider...
 
Re: Since Homosexuality is evil since Homosexuals can't procreate and the Human Race

I was just wondering if someone has feeling for the same sex and doesn't act on it does that still make them evil?
 
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Re: Is being proud of your ethnic group allowed in Islam ?

CosmicPathos said:
well, English is also spoken in different dialects. irish, scottish, welsh, american, canadian, british, aussie. still it is understood by everyone.
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Different than dialect diversity in Malay language.

Indonesia, Malaysia, and Brunei Darusalam have same national language, that also spoken by Singaporean Malay. But When I spoke with Bruneis, and Singaporean Malay, we used mixed language, Malay and English. Even in an internet discussion with a Malaysian, we used English, not Malay. It's because dialect diversity in Malay language could cause misunderstanding.
 
Re: Is being proud of your ethnic group allowed in Islam ?

I'm proud to be somali...in fact i will go a step further and say i love somali women
 
Re: Is being proud of your ethnic group allowed in Islam ?

I did not choose my ethnicity, so no I am not proud of it. All pride belongs to Allah, that is not something to be proud in my personal opinion. What I am proud of is that Allah choosed me to be a muslim, and that is something that is dear to my heart and is speciell. THAT I am proud of. Nothing else.
 
Re: Is being proud of your ethnic group allowed in Islam ?

CosmicPathos said:
I totally understand what you are trying to say. I also would not want to malign other Muslims in convo who dont speak my language. So how do you reckon we can accommodate everyone? By speaking English so that everyone understands? But what if I hate English language, and do not want to speak in this language? Not going into details regarding why I "hate" the language, why not make Arabic the unifying language (considering it is the language of Quran and hence we can use that as a starting point for making it a global language for Muslims) and speak in Arabic order to accommodate others rather than in English?
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I don't think that's always possible for reasons mentioned before. But kindness and consideration are also forms of communication that cross all language barriers and serve to bring people closer. I have had this desire that Arabic be compulsory in all muslim nations. But when countries like Pakistan, for economical reasons, would rather introduce Chinese in the national curriculum instead of Arabic then how much hope can one have of Arabic becoming the shared language for muslims. Khayr, I still think language needn't be a barrier when conveying love and unity amongst your brethren. The whole world understands the language of love. It just has to be there in the first place.
 

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