Is Islam a violent religion?

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Is Islam a violent religion or a religion that condones violence?

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tayyaba,
i don't think what you posted necessarily negates the fact that, at least in its early days, islam was spread by the sword.
here's another from islam q&a:
"Allaah sent him – meaning the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) – with the guiding Book and the conquering sword, ahead of the Hour, so that Allaah alone would be worshipped with no partner or associate, and his provision was placed beneath the shade of his sword and spear. Allaah has established the religion of Islam with proof and evidence, and with the sword and spear, both together and inseparable.

This is some of the evidence from the Qur’aan and Sunnah. The evidence clearly indicates that the sword is one of the most important means that led to the spread of Islam."
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=43087&ln=eng
 
Snakelegs, you are confused I think (correct me if I am wrong:D)

What do you think the statement 'islam was spread by the sword' means? If you think it means that people were forced to become Muslims, this is wrong, no doubt.

What it means is that Islamic rule was established in areas of resistance by war and battle, until a truce was reached and the people became governed by the Muslims (depending on the circumstances). That does not mean that they actually were forced to become Muslims!
 
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maybe you're right and i'm confused.

this seems clear to me - am i reading it wrong?

"It says in Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah (12/14):
Islam spread by means of proof and evidence to those who listened to the message and responded to it, and it spread by means of force and the sword to those who were stubborn and arrogant, until they were overwhelmed and became no longer stubborn, and submitted to that reality."

it does not say "islamic rule" but "islam".

"The defeatists among the Muslims come out to defend Islam, and they want to disavow Islam of this so-called lie, so they deny that Islam was spread by the sword, and they say that jihad is not prescribed in Islam, except in the case of self-defence. There is no such thing in Islam as taking the initiative in fighting in their view. This goes against what the Muslim scholars have stated, let alone the fact that it goes against the Qur’aan and Sunnah."

"Al-Bukhaari (4557) narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “ ‘You (true believers in Islamic Monotheism, and real followers of Prophet Muhammad and his Sunnah) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind’ [Aal- Imraan 3:110 – interpretation of the meaning].” He said: “You are the best (i.e., the most beneficial) of people for mankind, you bring them in the chains that are around their necks until they enter Islam.” Can people be brought in chains except in the case of jihad?? "

"The fact that the sword and power were means of spreading Islam is not a sources of shame for Islam, rather it is one of its strengths and virtues, because that makes people adhere to that which will benefit them in this world and in the Hereafter."

however, there is another ruling where it clearly mentions that people were given the option of paying the jizyah (protection money).

i have to read further - i am confused.
 
This is how it worked. The non-Muslim were given three options:

1. Become Muslim
2. Or stay as you are and pay the jizyah (This means they are know 'part' of the Islamic community because they pay taxes to the Muslim in return for protection)
3. OR fight.

it does not say "islamic rule" but "islam".
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But Islamic rule is a part of Islam. It is hard to give a generalised answer, because every situation was different. But one example was a Jewish tribe who did not want to fight so they paid the jizyah, and in return gained the protection of the Muslims. They were allowed to govern themselves how they wished, but some Muslims were sent to stay with them and help regulate things etc. Can you see how even though they did not become Muslim, Islam had spread to them? :? They were not against the Muslims, they were now working together with them... and so Islam had spread to them...
 
MTAFFI said:
Do you view Islam as a violent religion? Why or why not
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Hello

No, I do not view Islam as a violent religion Friend MTAFFI, the reason being is that it is not Islam is a peace-loving religion and does not permit violence of any kind.

At the time of Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings be upon him), there were may disputes amongst tribes, you may even say or write that there are now still, but the Prophet was a Messenger of Allah Ta'ala and it was his duty to spread the words of Islam to many people. The wars that have taken place during the time of the Prophet were done,as they were the will of Allah Ta'ala also that when people did not leave Islam alone and the Prophet they caused trouble and started wars as they were frightened of the truth and that the higher people's welath and authority and respect may be broken, sue to these reasons and many others, many people became enemies of out Prophet and espised him and wanted to get rid of him even though the Prophet had not used violence or had injustice done to them.

Nowadays, many peole may think Islam is a violent, peace-destroying religion but they are mislead, deluded and have a misconception of the Islam, if they were to think and learn and reserch and ask scholars and Imamas, they may know that Islam is not instead they may prefer to think of Islam as a bad religion which in fact their ignorance and unwillingness of finding the truth puts them off the real truth of Islam.

Peace to all.
Qurratul Ayn

P.S. I already have read many articles that many Brothers and Sisters have posted in therefor ethay may answer your question of their views.
P.P.S. If there are any mistakes or any errors in my writing or any facts that may be wrong, please correct me, Jazak'Allah Khair and Thank You.
 
IbnAbdulHakim said:
ye, hands get chopped off, people get stoned. It gets violent but its not barbaric nor oppresive but completely just.
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That is in the eye of the beholder. As a muslim, of course you believe that.

A thread title like this is more than a bit provocative and I don't think you really want honest responses from both sides of the fence. Looks like bait to me to get people banned.
 
Malaikah said:
This is how it worked. The non-Muslim were given three options:

1. Become Muslim
2. Or stay as you are and pay the jizyah (This means they are know 'part' of the Islamic community because they pay taxes to the Muslim in return for protection)
3. OR fight.



But Islamic rule is a part of Islam. It is hard to give a generalised answer, because every situation was different. But one example was a Jewish tribe who did not want to fight so they paid the jizyah, and in return gained the protection of the Muslims. They were allowed to govern themselves how they wished, but some Muslims were sent to stay with them and help regulate things etc. Can you see how even though they did not become Muslim, Islam had spread to them? :? They were not against the Muslims, they were now working together with them... and so Islam had spread to them...
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yes, i see what you are saying and it is hard to distinguish islamic rule from islam as they are in the same package. nevertheless, i would have to conclude that in the early days, there were instances where islam itself was spread by the sword. it does get confusing tho. in the instance above, it would clearly be "islamic rule". but sometimes it is not clear.
 
^^ In the "early days," the Muslims were very weak...the only time they picked up the sword was in defense...
i already told u a bit about it and so did Malaikah.

Peace
 
are we still goin around in circles lololol :giggling:
 
ok - i am going to let this silly thing rest as i am not really sure about this stuff - i said in the beginning that i am on shaky ground on this.
i need to learn more.
thanks and i apologize for giving you a hard time. i am not an advocate of the view that islam was spread by the sword - i am just seeking to find out the truth. i thought i knew, but obviously i either don't, or don't know enough.
i am confused - that's for sure.
 
^^ lol its ok snake. i like that u wana know in the first place. seriously, if u have more questions, keep askin :)
 
thanks, tayyaba. i got these ideas from the islam qa website, which i find confusing. need to read more.
again, i will put this issue on hold for now. (= indefinite vacation?).
the more i learn, the more i realize how very little i know, which is really pretty cool.
 
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