Are Muslims today backward?

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"When you start usurious trade, when you grab a hold of cows' tails and limit yourselves to farming and abandon Jihad, Allah will sent upon you humiliation, from which you will not be delivered until you return to your Faith."

(Authentic Hadith reported by Ahmad).
 
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I've 10 GCSEs, 4 A levels, a freakin scholarship, fluent in english, trained in shotokan karate upto yellow belt, can do the robot, great at street fighter, excellent telephone manner, proficient in ms word. excel and powerpoint, above average IQ, above average level of humour, modest, honest, smartass, a reading age of 20, above average typing skills, excellent defender and goal keeper, moderate stamina, moderate accuracy, decent numeracy skills, good with technology, fast learner, strong interest in academia particularly psychology, single and not looking.


Other than that, just your typical cave dwelling muzzy. Now if you don't mind, I have a camel race to win.

Hi Ho silver!
 
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I've 10 GCSEs, 4 A levels, a freakin scholarship, fluent in english, trained in shotokan karate upto yellow belt, can do the robot, great at street fighter, excellent telephone manner, proficient in ms word. excel and powerpoint, above average IQ, above average level of humour, modest, honest, smartass, a reading age of 20, above average typing skills, excellent defender and goal keeper, moderate stamina, moderate accuracy, decent numeracy skills, good with technology, fast learner, strong interest in academia particularly psychology, single and not looking.


Other than that, just your typical cave dwelling muzzy. Now if you don't mind, I have a camel race to win.

Hi Ho silver!

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I've 10 GCSEs, 4 A levels, a freakin scholarship, fluent in english, trained in shotokan karate upto yellow belt, can do the robot, great at street fighter, excellent telephone manner, proficient in ms word. excel and powerpoint, above average IQ, above average level of humour, modest, honest, smartass, a reading age of 20, above average typing skills, excellent defender and goal keeper, moderate stamina, moderate accuracy, decent numeracy skills, good with technology, fast learner, strong interest in academia particularly psychology, single and not looking.


Other than that, just your typical cave dwelling muzzy. Now if you don't mind, I have a camel race to win.

Hi Ho silver!


AsSalamOAlaikum WaRehmatuAllah WaBarkatuhu

MarshaAllah!!!! And yes thats all great. Simply being a true believer is such a pleasure on its own!! But you got all the other qualities too!!!

We need to find you a wife right away!!! :p

FiAmaaniAllah...
 
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It is not the quality of the individual we should be concerned about, but the quality of the Ummah as a whole.
 
^ but then you gotta wonder if all that makes a difference

To the world and global powers? No. To people around me? I'd like to think so. Really though, that paragraph is to show those who don't know muslims that you know we are human beings. We do have emotion, needs and wants just like everyone else. Our religion doesn't prevent us from being human and in fact, we can be awesome people as a result (read my post again :D)

Just because we are muslims and just because we chose to live in whatever places we live in, doesn't make us backwards or forwards. We're human beings at our core and we go with the flow like everyone else.

I never understood this attitude from certain non-muslims (usually non-religious folk, on the internet mainly) that because of our small and really unnoticable differences, we're seen as alien.

Meh I should write a blog and not plague this board with my inner most deep feelings and yadda yadda yadda.

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It is not the quality of the individual we should be concerned about, but the quality of the Ummah as a whole.
Excellent point. And yes there are holes in the Ummah - I agree with you completely as I've seen them with my own eyes, usually on a daily basis. But, we aren't backwards for following nor disobeying Islam. Rather, we're stagnating by not following Islam and that is the true problem.
 
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^ plague away bro lol


we're human beings, but not like the rest :p


we'll strive to achieve n learn as much as we think can benefit our akhirah (this involves medecine and the likes, because healing people is surely great in the sight of Allaah), but to strive too much for this world is surely foolish (haram businesses, over exerting ourselves for knowledge which wont benefit etc etc)
 
It is not the quality of the individual we should be concerned about, but the quality of the Ummah as a whole.
it is individuals, who, when added together make up an ummat.

how strong is a chain made of a few 2inch thick high quality steel links and some links made of 2mm soldiering iron?

is it as strong as steel or as week as soldiering wire?
 
Was the former president of Pakistan General Pervez Musharaff, right when he said: "Today we are the poorest, the most illiterate, the most backward, the most unhealthy, the most un-enlightened, the most deprived, and the weakest of all the human race"


Out of the said 1000,000,000+ population, Muslims have only been able to produce nine Nobel laureates. (Eight, considering the beards declared Dr. Abdus Salam an apostate)

Leave out the silly Peace prizes and literature and you barely have 3 Muslims. Three?

Yes, you can literally count them on your fingers.

There's no running away from the fact that the so-called 'Muslim world' is inept, impoverished, and lagging behind on all fronts of human achievement.

They are easily the biggest waste of human capital. The biggest failure to apply any intellect. The most bitter enemies of reason.

In short, the "Muslim World" is the biggest failure in this century in achieving ANYTHING credible. Common sense indicates it. Statistics prove it. There's no room for doubt here.

This humiliating failure is precisely what the Islamists try so hard to hide with their meaningless rants and quest for a 'jihad' against an imaginary global conspiracy involving every 'infidel' on Earth.

They dream of a day when the world is "ruled" by an imaginary pan-world Islamic 'caliphate' that will somehow be magically established by a fantastic 'Islamic revolution' which will dethrone the "west" once and for all. (Yes. Mildly entertaining stuff)

Today, the Islamist answer to any question is "Jews! Americans! Western Propaganda!" .

They are blind to reason, incapable of debate, unopen to discussion or any criticism. They prefer to simply 'silence' all dissent, because they know very well that they cannot answer some very serious questions. It's much easier to declare everyone who questions them as 'apostate'.

Their followers are brainwashed with the simple proclamation of Islam's "supremacy" over the 'West'.

They flood the internet with websites proclaiming this unsubstantiated claim. But the fact remains that every last pixel on their monitor is the result of a 'western' innovation.

The AK-47 that Osama proudly displays is a 'Western' invention. The chemical formula of RDX that they use in their bombs is the culmination of 'Western' research.

Today the Qur'an is printed in printing presses designed in the west, and can be found online using Search Engines algorithms written in the "the West".

The fabrics that Hamas terrorists wear on their forehead were formulated in "the west" and the shirts on their backs were made in textile factories, with machines invented in "the West".

The Satellite phones they use for communication is again a 'western' technology, implemented by satellites that 'the west' launched into space, in rockets designed and built by 'the west', using advanced Computers made by 'the west'.

The Arab world hailed the testing of the "Islamic Bomb" when Pakistan acquired Nuclear weapons, but even the most basic Nuclear Fission reaction and reactor had first been experimented in laboratories in 'the West'.

The world's best Universities, the Best Hospitals, the biggest companies, largest factories.. all are in 'the west'.

While the youth in the Muslim countries are unable to string alphabets together thanks to their antiquated 'madrassa education', 'the west' has advanced in leaps and bounds.

In a span of two hundred years, they have gone from inventing the Steam Engine to putting a "Western" man on the moon to building space stations. They've gone from establishing telegraph posts to inventing the Internet.

imsad WE have failed imsad



STOP STOP SSSSSTTTTTTTOPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAVENT U noticed it YET its all from the Quran.
The Non muslims actually learned from us and then we were pushed to the end of society while theygot all credit.Actually god describes the importance of Knowledge in the Quran with many words and many times.
 
it is individuals, who, when added together make up an ummat.

how strong is a chain made of a few 2inch thick high quality steel links and some links made of 2mm soldiering iron?

is it as strong as steel or as week as soldiering wire?

Its as weak as soldering wire. The point is, when collective efforts are made for the Deen, Allah's help will be with the whole Ummah. When individual efforts are made for the Deen, Allah's help will always be with such individuals.

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it is individuals, who, when added together make up an ummat.

how strong is a chain made of a few 2inch thick high quality steel links and some links made of 2mm soldiering iron?

is it as strong as steel or as week as soldiering wire?

My point is not that individuals don't matter, it's that we shouldn't be jumping for joy when we have a few standout Muslims winning a Nobel prize or running multi-billion dollar companies if the Ummah as a whole is struggling in the deen.

Individuals cannot act on their own to bring the Ummah up to the level Muslims have attained in the past; everyone must work together to make that happen.
 
My point is not that individuals don't matter, it's that we shouldn't be jumping for joy when we have a few standout Muslims winning a Nobel prize or running multi-billion dollar companies if the Ummah as a whole is struggling in the deen.

Individuals cannot act on their own to bring the Ummah up to the level Muslims have attained in the past; everyone must work together to make that happen.
My heart was jumping with joy, when during recent earthquakes in Kashmir, a Sufi Scholar/industrialist was able to spend millions to organize relief efforts then it was sinking with grief when the sectarian elements of the ummat were going around declaring it (eathquake) a punishment of Allah for not having a salafi khilafat, and were actively looting and sabotaging relief efforts (lest it stops the chaos which will bring about khilafat)

individuals are very important for leadership roles and to serve as role models (in absence of aql, naql is next best thing).




"Islam is a practical religion;
it does not float in the stratosphere of imaginary ideals but remains with the human being on the ground of realities and day-to-day concerns.
It does not regard people as angels but accepts them as mortals who eat food and walk in the marketplace."
 
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STOP STOP SSSSSTTTTTTTOPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAVENT U noticed it YET its all from the Quran.
The Non muslims actually learned from us and then we were pushed to the end of society while theygot all credit.Actually god describes the importance of Knowledge in the Quran with many words and many times.

Why do you blame the non-Muslim's for learning and advancing? That isn't the problem that we are facing, the fact of the matter is we Muslims as a whole has given up trying.

And yes the Quran does guide us Muslims towards seeking knowledge, BUT ARE WE?
 

AsSalamOAlaikum WaRehmatuAllah WaBarkatuhu

Today, Muslims are struggling behind the west. This is simply because of our ignorance of the Islamic principles. We all think about ourseleves and dont consider others. We are hurt when someone hits us, and we are ok when others are hit.

We must understand Islam is not only the most fastest growing progressive religion, but its the divine way of life, it all various forms of life. We all as individuals need to follow the Quran and Sunnah, and spread the Deen, until we become a collective entity.

Verily, this Brotherhood of yours is a single Brotherhood and I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore serve Me (and no other). [21:92]


FiAmaaniAllah...
 
We have forgotten our religion, neglected it. This has lead to the state muslims and the muslim world are in today.

Yes, I do agree with a lot of what has been said in that article. Of course, not all muslims are like this obviously, but so many are. The entire muslim world has gone down the drain, and it can be attributed to our selling out. Compared to the muslims of the past, at the prophet's (peace be upon him) time, and the time of umar bin abd al aziz, at the time of andalusia.... where are we? How do we compare to them? We're nothing.

I'm not saying this to offend anyone, I remind myself before I remind anyone else. Our current situation is our own fault, and making excuses for ourselves, or blaming it on other people, whether it be Jews or Americans or purple bananas, is ridiculous. Denial is the first part of the problem we need to fix.

We need to get our act together. Each person needs to do it individually, and then when we have improved ourselves, we can come together as one. But EVERYONE has to make an effort. And frankly, these days, it's the few righteous people that have to haul the rest of the ummah on their backs, and that's not fair.

So yeah. There is still good left in muslims, there is still courage and modesty and honesty and forgiveness and intelligence. We just need to get rid of everything that covers that up, all the sins, all the lies, all the laziness, so the good stuff can come out. And we need to channel muslims' energy into beneficial things, into things that please Allah, especially the youth..

“The Muslim Ummah is like one body. If the eye is in pain then the whole body is in pain and if the head is in pain then the whole body is in pain”
 

Today, Muslims are struggling behind the west. This is simply because of our ignorance of the Islamic principles. We all think about ourseleves and dont consider others. We are hurt when someone hits us, and we are ok when others are hit.

We don't need to think that the progress of westeners is something bad for us. Its for our benefit only. They are indeed helping us, making our work easier. They are serving us by inventing wonderful things. We Muslims are utilizing their technologies. There is no pride in discovering new things.
A new discovery simply shows us that we were until now ignorant about it. It shows our lack of knowledge, so why do we take pride in it?

But Islam also wants us to do research and be at par with others...

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I dunno about muslims in other countries but in Lebanon, christian used to be more educated than muslims and that is changing. Now the majority of bright students in universities and schools are muslims which is good...BUT, the majority of uneducated people in Lebanon are also muslims.
My mom teaches in a public school where all students are muslims and these students couldn't care less about their education (it's like that in all public schools here), they're also not polite and it's their parents' fault mostly...they don't even pick them up from school and they let them play in the streets till midnight...they are doing the exact opposite of what Islam tells them to do...As muslims, it is our duty to seek education...
And what bothers me the most, is that non-muslims blame this on Islam when it is muslims themselves who are giving Islam a bad name...
 

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