Are Muslims today backward?
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Yes. The Ummah is failing and Islam is dying! Even if the three (real, not conspiracy theory) forces pushing the Muslim world in an ever-deeper mess were removed, I doubt any real difference will be made. The world has gone kaput.
akhi dont lose hope, do a brief study of history, in the 50's and 60's thinks looked far, far worse.
the ummah is actually beginning to wake up, we are waking up and beginning to practice and the youth of islam is stronger than its elders in many ways.
ok we've got a long way to go but at least i think we are going in the right direction
you know we have entirely accepted the western concept of progress, of measuring ourself but is this correct?
for example, if you look at the west they are all miserable, do i want the ummah to be like this? no i dont.
i live in the uk, and i think i would need to walk at least 50 miles for a good clean free water supply, is this the progress we want? where our land and water is poluted so it can no longer be used without the use of more chemicals?
for example, if you look at the west they are all miserable, do i want the ummah to be like this? no i dont.
i live in the uk, and i think i would need to walk at least 50 miles for a good clean free water supply, is this the progress we want? where our land and water is poluted so it can no longer be used without the use of more chemicals?
Dawud_uk,
Very interesting point that you have raised here, I suppose we Muslims have many lessons to learn from the progress of the western world. Its undeniable that they have been able to contribute to a lot of good, as well as bad to the human kind and nature.
Very interesting point that you have raised here, I suppose we Muslims have many lessons to learn from the progress of the western world. Its undeniable that they have been able to contribute to a lot of good, as well as bad to the human kind and nature.
doesnt matter too much, when the oil runs out, which is likely to be in most our lifetimes then western model modern civilisation goes with it.
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No not at all...We might not be winning Awards/Noble prices world wide...But we are still the only ones WORLD WIDE who know about Istinja. beat that!
How come none of ur important people in high places don't?
Get wit the Program!
How come none of ur important people in high places don't?
Get wit the Program!
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If u want to be succesfull u have to be mean, u have to cheat! U have to lie! Not always ofcourse but u can see all these ''successful business'' trying to make as much profit, but the way they do it is really put under question. Child labour? etc....
I guess we muslims are to honest to get involved in all that, hence we live a modest/honest life
I guess we muslims are to honest to get involved in all that, hence we live a modest/honest life
I was thought that you must WORK HARD.
me too! but many people (of any or no religion) do cheat but it is NOT a prerequisite to be a liar or cheat in order to be successful
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It depends on how you define "Success". If you think having a large income, a manor, few servants, fame etc then these all will perish one day you will left helpless. None of these can come of any use.
There are people in this world who have all these things, and better than these, but still their lives are full of miseries. They can't sleep peacefully. They are so fed up of their lives that they commit suicide...
The actual success is peace of mind in this world, and pleasure of Allah in the Aakhirah. Success is attaining what we desire and retaining it with us, which cannot happen in this temporary life.
we should tell this to those starving millions around the globe, who have no idea about where their next morsel of food is coming from, its easy enough to stay "halal" & "Modest" in countries where it is the treasury, which foots the bill for that modesty (< pronounced scrounging by Congenitally lazy)
wa salaam
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If everyone pay their Zakat in full, there would be no starvation on earth. Allah (SwT) has ordained the exact amount for it.
The Messenger of Allah (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) and the Sahabah never new where their next morsel of food is coming from...
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The progress and advancement of Muslims have no bearing on whether or not the western civilization crumbles down or not. We should try and understand why the ISLAMIC CIVILIZATION CRUMBLED DOWN and NOW AT THE BOTTOM. And focus our energy on revitalizing it. We need to change our attitude of blaming others for our own mistakes.
i have no doubt in my mind why it crumbled, we become corrupted in matters of the deen and dunya, we became contented with wealth and living for this world and we forgot jihad as one of the major ways of this ummah so Allah swt is punishing and testing the ummah to see who will return to the correct ways of this deen.
The Islamic Civilization crumbled down because they paralyzed their own intellect, their faculty of thinking. Which is one of the most important gifts that Allah has bestowed upon the Human kind.
Our general mentality is something like this now "So what if we are the worse at everything? So what if we are engaged in mindless violence and ethnic conflict? So what if our children are illiterate and unable to earn themselves a livelihood? What if our women go through their entire lives in a dingy kitchen? There's always the AFTERLIFE!
THEN WE'LL SHOW 'EM WHO DA BOSS! while 'the west' burns in hell!'"
Our general mentality is something like this now "So what if we are the worse at everything? So what if we are engaged in mindless violence and ethnic conflict? So what if our children are illiterate and unable to earn themselves a livelihood? What if our women go through their entire lives in a dingy kitchen? There's always the AFTERLIFE!
THEN WE'LL SHOW 'EM WHO DA BOSS! while 'the west' burns in hell!'"
^^ it makes good cover to hide stupidity and laziness, we can wallow in the glory of Salahudin (who had druze fighting for him, and Jews were his friends too) and live off on sadaqah of "kafir" governments, and same time can claim to be zahids
perhaps we are agreeing to the symptoms but not the cause.
because to me the collapse of our societies and intellectual life came about as our civilisation fell into ruin, why did this happen?
it happened because we turned away from Allah, so Allah turned away from us. he allowed our enemies to destroy us, and consequently everything else with it because we abandoned jihad and were unable to defend ourselves, as one of the haddith says, we got wahan in our hearts.
the fundemental cause of all the problems you are pointing to is spiritual, its in the practice of the deen, which as it develops and takes us to a point where we again run whole nations will lead to an intellectual and societal revival also.