Guru Nanak Dev Ji a Muslim....?

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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh

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Let's clear this up once and for all.....

Now many times on other threads that Guru Nanak Dev Ji Sikh Prophet/Avtaar is/was muslim!

Many people think that Sikhism is a sect of Islam


God sent Guru Nanak Dev Ji to the this world in order to enlighten Hindus and Muslims that they are merely fighting with each other trying to prove that their religion is superior. Guru Nanak Dev Ji preached that one does not have to be in a certain religion to meet God. It does not matter which religion one belongs to, as long as one performs true worship and meditation, he or she is capable of meeting with God. As proclaimed by God, Guru Nanak Dev Ji introduced a true immaculate way in order to attain salvation and be one with God. Whoever followed the way of Guru Nanak Dev Ji was known as Sikh. Many Hindus and Muslims joined Guru Nanak Dev Ji and became his follower. Sikhism is an independent way to meet God, which does not derive any ritual from either Hinduism or Islam, however there are some similarities in the rituals and beliefs which are clarified below. Sikhism is an individual faith established by God through Sikh Gurus and it is completely wrong to consider Sikhism as a part or combination of either Hinduism or Islam.

Guru Nanak considers himself neither Hindu nor Muslim. He did not follow Hindu rituals and nor did he join Islamic law. As commanded by God, Guru Nanak introduced a true faith, whose sole purpose is the love towards God. Guru Nanak Dev Ji denounced the superstitions followed by Hindu and Muslims and told them to worship God instead of considering their religion superior.


Following are the reasons how Sikhism is different

1. Muslims believe in polygamy and they even marry their cousins. By Islamic law Muslims can have up to four wives. Guru Nanak Dev Ji completely denounced these activities and instructed to be wedded to one person only.

2. Muslims indulge in animal sacrifices and Guru Nanak told them that this would not bring any good. Killing God’s creations in the Name of God is totally ironic. [ More ... ]


3. Muslims makes fast and consider the month of Ramadan holy. Sikhism instructs that making your body suffer will not help you to meet God. Sikhism tells that meditation of God is above all.

4. Muslims cut their hair. Sikhs however do not cut their hair as a respect towards God and live the way God made us.

5. Guru Nanak Dev Ji instructed to focus on meditation of God instead of glorifying a religion. To the Muslims Guru Nanak says, “The Muslims praise the Islamic law; they read and reflect upon it but God’s bound servants are those who bind themselves to see God” (Guru Granth Sahib, 465).


It is completely ridiculous to consider Sikhism a sect of any other religion. Just like you wouldn’t consider Christianity a sect of Buddhism, you should not consider Sikhism a sect of either Islam or Hinduism or a combination of both.


Guru Gobind Singh Ji (Tenth Sikh Prophet/Avtaar) said the following

''Bichatra Natak...he calls Muhammad MahaDeen..meaning Maha = Great..Deen = Religion''

This is respect, and nothing more. Jesus is revered in Islam, does that make you Christians? No. So hence forth stop concocting things up.

If you have any questions about Guru Nanak Dev Ji, please ask them here and will answer to the best of my abilty!

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh

(Pure Ones Belong To God, Victory To God)
 
Guru Nanak Dev Ji

I have appeared in this age to indicate the way unto men. I reject all sects, and only know one God, whom I recognise in the earth, the heavens, and in all directions.”
 
This is a little of topic, but do you carry a kirpan (dagger) for self defense?
 
AbuAbdallah said:
This is a little of topic, but do you carry a kirpan (dagger) for self defense?
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Yes it is off topic, because this thread is only for questions about Guru Nanak and how he is not a muslim!

Anyway...

This injunction was primarily in order to protect the weak from tyranny and slavery, to maintain a state of harmony and security, to allow for the free development of trade, craftsmanship, arts & literature and to safeguard and protect the universal right of all beings to live their lives in a peaceful,

So basically it's a job of a Sikh to stand up for those who can't themselves no matter what religion or creed, colour. Something unique i think you'll find!
 
When all other means have failed, it is then righteous to take the sword in hand."
Zafar-namah, Dasam Granth
Shri Guru Gobind Singh Ji - The Tenth Master

Kirpa - is act of kindness
aan- self respect

The Kirpan is not an offensive weapon, it can only be used in self-defence.
 
i dunno why but quite a lot of people say so called people are muslim, like people say guru nanak was muslim and even that shirdi sai baba was a muslim, if someone is or isnt muslim, it aint gona make a difference to islam! islam is stil gona be the truth :D, its like that saying ....

"islam isnt in need of us, we are in need of it"
 
True chacha - But we are happy Muslims want to claim Guru Nanak because he was such a great man same with Hindus.

But using it to convert Sikhs is wrong, so Just wanted to clear up any misunderstandings!
 
Hey chacha jalebi

i dunno why but quite a lot of people say so called people are muslim, like people say guru nanak was muslim and even that shirdi sai baba was a muslim, if someone is or isnt muslim, it aint gona make a difference to islam! islam is stil gona be the truth , its like that saying ....

"islam isnt in need of us, we are in need of it"
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So why are certain Muslims using Guru Nanak and Shirdi Sai Baba by saying they are Muslims?

Shirdi Sai Baba was neither Muslim nor Sikh nor Hindu. He also preached the oneness of God but did not create a new religion nor stress the importance of one. He lived in a Masjid, but arati (pooja) with lamps was done everyday there everyday.
 
AvarAllahNoor said:

Guru Nanak considers himself neither Hindu nor Muslim. He did not follow Hindu rituals and nor did he join Islamic law. As commanded by God, Guru Nanak introduced a true faith, whose sole purpose is the love towards God. Guru Nanak Dev Ji denounced the superstitions followed by Hindu and Muslims and told them to worship God instead of considering their religion superior.
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It doesn't matter whether he is a Muslim, a Hindu or a Sikh. We'll all know soon enough come the Day of Judgment.

AvarAllahNoor said:
1. Muslims believe in polygamy and they even marry their cousins. By Islamic law Muslims can have up to four wives. Guru Nanak Dev Ji completely denounced these activities and instructed to be wedded to one person only.
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Polygamy as a privilege and not a right. Great power comes with great responsibility. Wars and diseases result in widows and orphans and who else can take care of them if not the men without causing scandals? Who else to protect them from the depredation of others? Today's societies frown upon moral things while prostitution, promiscuity and extra-marital affairs are celebrated upon.

AvarAllahNoor said:
2. Muslims indulge in animal sacrifices and Guru Nanak told them that this would not bring any good. Killing God’s creations in the Name of God is totally ironic. [ More ... ]
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I would take great offence if someone likens sacrifice to drinking beer, by saying "indulge". The sacrifice means the needy and the poor can be given something to eat, out of the coffers of able & wealthy individuals who want to ease their pain and seek the countenance of God by following His commands. Our property is a trust given to us by Allah, and through giving up of our worldly properties to help others & to seek His countenance reflects how much faith we have in Him and our willingness to give up something for His Good Pleasure.
AvarAllahNoor said:
3. Muslims makes fast and consider the month of Ramadan holy. Sikhism instructs that making your body suffer will not help you to meet God. Sikhism tells that meditation of God is above all.
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Tell that to a Buddhist instead of a Muslim.

Fasting during the day keeps the body healthy from overeating and teaches us to sympathise with those who can't even find a crumb of bread to subsist for even a day. The virtues of Ramadhan teaches Muslims to be charitable and patient in the face of hardness. I guess we don't post enough to allow non-Muslims to learn more about Islam in this forum. Either that or they aren't even interested.

AvarAllahNoor said:
4. Muslims cut their hair. Sikhs however do not cut their hair as a respect towards God and live the way God made us.
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I guess we all were born naked. Let's respect that also by not wearing any clothes.

Umm.. on the other hand, I'd rather respect God and other people by not offending His and their sight and keeping clean and neat.

AvarAllahNoor said:
5. Guru Nanak Dev Ji instructed to focus on meditation of God instead of glorifying a religion. To the Muslims Guru Nanak says, “The Muslims praise the Islamic law; they read and reflect upon it but God’s bound servants are those who bind themselves to see God” (Guru Granth Sahib, 465).
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Muslims are supposed to meditate on God whenever they face the qiblah in their prayers. To glorify God who deserves glorification. Praise be to Allah.

The part of Ihsaan is to worship Allah as if we are seeing Him. But if that is not within our ability then we must remember that He is constantly watching over us.
 
Muslim Knight....

Fasting during the day keeps the body healthy from overeating and teaches us to sympathise with those who can't even find a crumb of bread to subsist for even a day. The virtues of Ramadhan teaches Muslims to be charitable and patient in the face of hardness. I guess we don't post enough to allow non-Muslims to learn more about Islam in this forum. Either that or they aren't even interested
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Fine, but then should you not live in this way 24/7 365 days a year until the end, rather than just one month during Ramadan?
 
Fine, but then should you not live in this way 24/7 365 days a year until the end, rather than just one month during Ramadan?
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For the same reason that we don't pray 24/7 365 days a year, it is from Allah's Mercy that He does not burden us with something that we cannot take.
 
It's kind of funny how both Hindus and Muslims fight over Guru Nanak. 'He was Hindu!' 'He was Muslim!'

I'm just like, 'Dudes. Be quiet. This is getting embarassing.'
 
Muezzin said:
It's kind of funny how both Hindus and Muslims fight over Guru Nanak. 'He was Hindu!' 'He was Muslim!'

I'm just like, 'Dudes. Be quiet. This is getting embarassing.'
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Everybody wants to be associated with the best Dude! :D
 
AbuAbdallah said:
For the same reason that we don't pray 24/7 365 days a year, it is from Allah's Mercy that He does not burden us with something that we cannot take.
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So you should not be giving to charity etc etc outside of Ramzan? That is what I meant!
 
AvarAllahNoor said:
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh
Guru Nanak Dev Ji preached that one does not have to be in a certain religion to meet God. It does not matter which religion one belongs to, as long as one performs true worship and meditation, he or she is capable of meeting with God.
......told them to worship God instead of considering their religion superior.
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I reject all sects, and only know one God, whom I recognise in the earth, the heavens, and in all directions.”
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i never thought sikhism was a sect of islam or hinduism.
i find the thoughts above reflect my thinking quite well.
question i have is, in view of the above, is it necessary to even be a sikh?

(TABS 19)
Kirpa - is act of kindness
aan- self respect.
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this was interesting. i knew the word kirpa and always wondered how it related to kirpan!
 
snakelegs said:
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I find the thoughts above reflect my thinking quite well.
question i have is, in view of the above, is it necessary to even be a sikh?

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No it's not, but you'll find the more you read the Guru Granth Sahib, and listen to Kirtan, the more you want to explore Sikhi. Which then would make you want to be a Sikh, and follow the teaching of Guru Nanaks successors! - :happy:
 
AvarAllahNoor said:
No it's not, but you'll find the more you read the Guru Granth Sahib, and listen to Kirtan, the more you want to explore Sikhi. Which then would make you want to be a Sikh, and follow the teaching of Guru Nanaks successors! - :happy:
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now, that is cooool - a religion that says it isn't necessary to be a member in order to worship/meet god!!!
that must be totally unique!
 

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