Actually they make pictures of many religions, and you ARE aloud to deny the Holocaust there, so that basicaly ruins your whole argument. To bad. Wrong again.
[PIE]Really are they so lets see if they will print out the Holocaust pictures as well as the other coutnries that practise self censorship.
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When did I ever say Israel wasn't wrong. Israel was wrong for killing civilians and I condemn them for doing so as well. How about you condemn Muslims around the world in violent protests where people
died.
[PIE]so caught you in al lie huh,or to wake you up form your "amnesiac state" ,but i am happy that you have admitted TO YOURSELF,that the IDF targeted civillian willingly.[/PIE]
So instead of making cartoons about a prophet you get back at the Danes by making fun of a genoicide/mass murder of Jews? That makes sense! Where did that idea come from? The mental house?!? Who was the braniac who thought of that idea?
[PIE]LOL,well iit does make sense as many coutnries in europe make it a law to NOT DENY the HOLCOUST and the rest practise self censorship.
So it is simple as Ahmednijad has said simply,it is too see if the west will break their self inflicted censorship and to rpactise FULLF REEDOMW IHOUT CARING FOR OTEHRS..
As they posted the pictures KNWOING THE AFFECT,so should they NOW NOT FOLLOW THE SAME PRICNCIPLE?
Or is some people allowed to be slandered and other not.
the Holocasut is the worst that the Jews suffered under the EU or german,and it is remembered by amny there as a balck mark,and thus the self imposed censorship.
So now it is their time to embrace democarcy and embrace Iranian freedom...
we have never started this but we will end it and teach to you the cost of freedom wihtout ethics.
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Read your 'word' again??? I'm still trying to decipher what your trying to say with that A+ grammar your throwing at me. :rollseyes
[PIE]And not "understanding my grammar" yet you are still able to reply...wow...either my english is bad or you A level is really underlevel...[/PIE]
How is Iran awnsering for it again? Half the people on this forum are condoning it!
[PIE]How is the Iran goverment answering for it,simple they make it to your face,they say clearly what they eman instead of hiding behind the sacrcastic and offensive attitude of "FREE SPPECH AND DEMOCRACY".
they say clearly what this is about to test the west freedom of free speech.
while the danes and the eu and otehr western coutnries cover and shielf behing their socalled "civilisation" to slander and harm toehr willfully wihout thought and recourse.
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Alright. I will take it slow because you are obviously having a difficult time processing this...
- Jews in Iran are not allowed to travel to Israel
- Jews in Iran must go through in interview process for 1 year so the gov of Iran knows exactly where they will be.
- Jews in Iran are often not allowed to travel after that 1 year.
- Over 100,000 Jews have already fled Iran by foot and by sneaking out to go to Israel, and many were caught and have died by torture for just trying to leave the country!
Would you try to sneak out of Iran and leave your family behind knowing they might be killed if you refuse to come back, and knowing you will be killed if they catch you? There doing it to protect there loved ones, yet the situation is so bad Jews are still trying to get out every day!
[PIE]Wow,,i am not serious,,really,,well those are what the other poster said and take it up with him,
Jews are able to travel and with their families but they WONT GO TO ISRAEL..
And you suspect that it is becasue of Iranian action and murder of Jews?
Pray tell is this your hallucination speaking or your desire to make the iranian appear evil in your eyes?
At the end of the day it is simple,why dont you write a jewish letter to the lone Jewish Minister in iran?
why dont you ask his opinion ,but his view as according to the website,is becasue he loves Iran and it is his homeland.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,1807160,00.html
But ofcourse dont take my word for it,why dont you send a mail to this Jewish leader in Iran unless of coruse you dont beleive he is a jew for loving iran...\
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You are not serious are you?
The Germans documented all of there prisoners! Historians claim that the Germans might have kept the most oraginzed records ever kept! They kept papers, pictures, video everything!
Your basicaly lieing right to everyones face. How patheticaly embarassing. How about stating facts if you actually want to make a
point in this discussion.
One moment...
Read all of it. If you have the courage to. The don't respond with any less. There are over thousands of web sites that have taken every argument of Holocaust deniers and proved it wrong with PROOF so do not come here and copy paster anything expecting not to get utterly embarassed.
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Nazi Documents:[/SIZE]
documentary evidence from the past.
Documents on the beginnings of the gassing program:
October 25, 1941:
"Gassing Devices". Letter from Wetzel to Lohse, recommending that the head of the euthanasia program should build "gassing devices" to eliminate the Jews.
March 26, 1942:
"Special Vans...or Other Remedies". Letter from Rauff to the Criminal Technical Institute, stating that "special vans" are needed at the Mauthausen concentration camp. Until they arrive, bottled poison gas must be used.
April 11, 1942:
"Delousing Van". Letter to Himmler's staff describing how a "delousing van" -
quote marks in the original - will be used to clear out a camp of Jewish women and children. June 5, 1942:
"97,000 have been processed". Letter to Rauff, describing in detail how the "special vans" in the East have murdered 97,000 people.
Documents on the
Auschwitz death camp:
August 21, 1942:
"Bathing Installations for Special Action". Describes two ovens installed in Auschwitz gassing bunkers.
August 26, 1942:
"Material for Special Treatment". Permission to send a truck to pick up Zyklon-B.
September 1-5, 1942:
Diary of Johann Paul Kremer. Dr. Kremer witnessed gassings in Auschwitz and wrote about them in his diary.
September 8, 1942:
"Cremation capacity of 2,650 a day is not enough". A note to file by Topf engineer Karl Prüfer.
January 29, 1943:
"Cremation with Simultaneous Special Treatment". It was important to conduct gassing and cremation at the same time.
January 29, 1943:
"Vergasungskeller". The gas chamber room's purpose is revealed ("gassing cellar").
March 31, 1943:
Krema II Inventory. Mentions the devices by which the Zyklon-B was poured into the gas chamber.
June 24, 1943:
Krema III Inventory. Lists the fourteen (fake) showerheads and "one gas-tight door" installed in the gas chamber.
May 24, 1944:
"Unconditional Secrecy". An SS man is sworn to secrecy "to carry out the Jewish evacuation." June/July 1944:
"Revealing a State Secret". A woman is executed for having revealed Auschwitz's secrets.
Documents on the
Operation Reinhard extermination camps:
July 18, 1942:
"the obligation to maintain secrecy continues even after I have left the Service" A secrecy undertaking of Operation Reinhard participants.
Other Documents:
Cremation at Gusen: A Timesheet. Shows the cremation of 94 corpses in less than 20 hours on November 7, 1941.
Leuchter Consent Agreement. Holocaust Denier Fred Leuchter admits he is not an engineer and nevertheless represented himself as such.
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Auschwitz: Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers by Jean-Claude Pressac. By permission of the Beate Klarsfeld Foundation. The seminal and still timely book on the gas chambers at Auschwitz.
IMT Volume I (370 pages). The Trial of the Major War Criminals Before the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg, Volume I. Covering October 18 to November 13, 1945. The text has been faithfully reproduced page-by-page.
Thanks to Patrick Groff and Harry Mazal.
IMT Volume II (500 pages). Covering November 14 to November 30, 1945.
Thanks to Patrick Groff and Harry Mazal.
IMT Volume III (600 pages). Covering December 1 to December 14, 1945.
Thanks to Patrick Groff and Harry Mazal.
IMT Volume IV (570 pages). Covering December 17, 1945 to January 8, 1946.
Thanks to Patrick Groff and Harry Mazal.
The Jaeger Report (9 pages), Written by SS-Standartenfuehrer (Colonel) Karl Jaeger, commander of one of the "Einsatzkommandos" (EK 3), it provides a very detailed account of the murderous rampage of this "special squad" in Nazi-occupied USSR, and proudly documents 137,346 murders.
The Nazi Doctors: Medical Killing and the Psychology of Genocide by Dr. Robert Jay Lifton. "An agonizing account of what doctors can do when they are transformed by their culture. To read of the medical experiments at Auschwitz - 'They took us because they didn’t have rabbits' - will make it harder for us physicians ever again to be corrupted." Howard M. Spiro, M.D. Professor of Medicine, Yale Medical School.
The Stroop Report (125 pages), Major General Jürgen Stroop, 1943. The thorough Nazi record proudly documenting the destruction of the Warsaw Ghetto. See also
Stroop on Treblinka.
Thanks to Jürgen Langowski. See
introduction for notes on the English translation.</I>
Blausäure zur Schädlingsbekämpfung (70 pages), Gerhard Peters, 1933.
"Prussic Acid in Pest Control." An important work for understanding the characteristics of Zyklon-B. Text transcription and translation are not yet available.
Thanks to Daniel Keren.
Die Einsatzfähigkeit der Blausäure-Durchgasung bei tiefen Temperaturen (5 pages), Gerhard Peters and W. Rasch, 1941.
"The Efficiency of Prussic Acid Fumigation at Low Temperatures." Addresses behavior of Zyklon-B at low temperatures.
Nochmals: Die Einsatzfähigkeit der Blausäure-Durchgasung bei tiefen Temperaturen (3 pages), R. Irmscher, 1942.
"Once More: The Efficiency of Prussic Acid Fumigation at Low Temperatures." Further German research addressing the behavior of Zyklon-B at low temperatures.
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Holocaust Denial[/SIZE]
We have a special page devoted to an examination of Holocaust
denial and deniers.
Among other things, we offer a quick questions and answers page on
revisionism and Holocaust deniers.
David Irving is a Holocaust denier residing in the UK who recently lost a lawsuit to Deborah Lipstadt. We now have an
index organizing material about David Irving. We also offer a
pamphlet for those seeking a printed concise introduction to David Irving and his lies, entitled
Who is David Irving?
Not for the faint hearted! Only click on these pics if you have the courage!!!!!!
http://www.holocaust-history.org/hungarian-photos/jpg/12-1142.jpg
http://shamash.org/holocaust/photos/images/Auschw02.jpg
http://shamash.org/holocaust/photos/images/EG1.jpg
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/holocaust/images/holocausthomeimage.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a3/Nordhausen_camp.JPG/250px-Nordhausen_camp.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3c/Childwarsawghetto.jpg/300px-Childwarsawghetto.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Einsatz1.jpg/250px-Einsatz1.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Holocaust-gas-hair.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/dd/Kovnopogrom.jpg/250px-Kovnopogrom.jpg
tahnk for links and i will study them thoroughly ,but can i say the same for you,instead of trying to manipulate people to think thatt he iranian are blcoking the jews from iran from leaving why don't you send a mail to the Jewish minister...