Mom Beats Man With Baseball Bat For Allegedly Molesting Her Sons

[جوري]

You strike me as gun toting anyways and shooting the heads off anyone who crosses your foyer, so I was surprised to your response here then I quickly retracted that surprise, since she's both a woman and black so that's enough to rouse some misogynist feelings in you!
& no I am not a feminist I love men, reasoned, wise, warriors and statesmen the likes of Khalid & Umar a far cry from the type we've now a days!

best,

 

[Muslim Woman]

did not read the thread except the title. Don't know what's the relation between child molest and marraige .

Young marriage is valid if parents and both girl and boy agree . There is a strong opinion that the girl should start the married life with husband after her puberty as Mother Aisha ra did . But these are off topic here .

 

[faithandpeace]

Assalamu alaikum. I can understand the mother being beyond furious for what she believed was true about her son being horribly victimized. On the other hand, a healthy and just society must have a system where the accused are found guilty and punished on the basis of evidence demonstrating their guilt. She did act impulisively before firm evidence was established. On the other hand, the justice system in place currently does not provide for any sense of justice as it does not adequately punish those who commit these crimes. I don't see how any mother would feel any sense of justice knowing that the man who molested or raped her child was simply going to get a number of years in prison complete with the amenities of TV, decent food, exercise, and entertainment. If rapists and child molesters instead were beheaded or stoned to death, there is a reasonably good chance that such crimes would drastically decrease. Not only would the trash be removed from society forever, it would send a message to others to think twice about what they do. The justice system in place now is not an effective nor a civilized one. As a result, it is not surprising that people do take the law into their own hands. Two wrongs do not make a right either, however.

 

[جوري]

did not read the thread except the title. Don't know what's the relation between child molest and marraige .

Young marriage is valid if parents and both girl and boy agree . There is a strong opinion that the girl should start the married life with husband after her puberty as Mother Aisha ra did . But these are off topic here .

the relevance of that detour is a conundrum only Karl can answer I've a clue but hope my hunch inaccurate!
Being promised to each other as an agreement between parents a practice usually out of interest practiced by king and queens to keep thrones in their family is indeed an ancient practice but the 'children' in spite of their ill fate were still waited on to meet the conditions of marriage we didn't have three year olds married to 11 year olds because their families decided their fate- furthermore they could breech that contract since there's no marriage without consent!
And :Allah::swt: knows best,

 

[Futuwwa]

If rapists and child molesters instead were beheaded or stoned to death, there is a reasonably good chance that such crimes would drastically decrease.

On the other hand, it would make rapists and child molesters likely to kill their victims to decrease the risk of getting caught. If an amoral criminal knows he's getting executed anyway if caught, he has nothing to lose and everything to gain by committing further crimes and silencing witnesses forever.

 

[observer]

If rapists and child molesters instead were beheaded or stoned to death, there is a reasonably good chance that such crimes would drastically decrease.

They have the death penalty in many countries where crime is still rampant (the US is one). It's hardly been a deterrent there. And I'd like to think that, in 2013, we could say that beheading and stoning people to death is barbaric and disgusting.

 

[islamica]

On the other hand, it would make rapists and child molesters likely to kill their victims to decrease the risk of getting caught. If an amoral criminal knows he's getting executed anyway if caught, he has nothing to lose and everything to gain by committing further crimes and silencing witnesses forever.

They already do that, look up rape and india. Rape of women is an endemic there and rape of little girls and killing them and throwing them in rivers to hide one's crime is not uncommon either.

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

On the other hand, it would make rapists and child molesters likely to kill their victims to decrease the risk of getting caught. If an amoral criminal knows he's getting executed anyway if caught, he has nothing to lose and everything to gain by committing further crimes and silencing witnesses forever.

Nothing remains forever until the day of judgement, keep that in mind.

 

[sister herb]

We are talking here this case (even basicly about it) but I noticed that it happened already at the August 2012 and now is June 2013 so it happened almost year ago. Have anyone any information did this man actually anything or not? Did he become judged or did this woman judged?

 

[جوري]

They already do that, look up rape and india. Rape of women is an endemic there and rape of little girls and killing them and throwing them in rivers to hide one's crime is not uncommon either.

by Allah I was going to say the same!
I keep going back to the story of 6 year old Megan after which Megan law was passed pls google it. He killed her and chopped her and skinned her after he raped her. Then some idiot comes and changes his sentence citing the ' barbarism' of the death penalty!
And what he did to that girl well that was a walk in the park! Hypocrites who side with criminals at the expense of the tax payers with no regard to justice the victim or the grieving families!
As I said before until it happens to their kid or their sister or niece or mother they'll cry you a river of BS several pages long!

 

[observer]

by Allah I was going to say the same!
I keep going back to the story of 6 year old Megan after which Megan law was passed pls google it. He killed her and chopped her and skinned her after he raped her. Then some idiot comes and changes his sentence citing the ' barbarism' of the death penalty!
And what he did to that girl well that was a walk in the park! Hypocrites who side with criminals at the expense of the tax payers with no regard to justice the victim or the grieving families!
As I said before until it happens to their kid or their sister or niece or mother they'll cry you a river of BS several pages long!

As an opponent of the death penalty, I just think it seems incredibly hypocritical to say "Killing is a sin. You mustn't kill. If you kill someone, we kill you." So killing's bad, except when it's ok....

A friend of mine was murdered a while back. His killer (seemingly a random killing) was never caught. I'd like to see his killer caught and brought to justice, sent to jail for life. I don't want to see him killed.

There's no evidence that the death penalty reduces crime. To say that people who are against the death penalty side with criminals is utter nonsense.

 

[جوري]

As an opponent of the death penalty, I just think it seems incredibly hypocritical to say "Killing is a sin. You mustn't kill. If you kill someone, we kill you." So killing's bad, except when it's ok....

Maybe you'd a christian upbringing. I too wouldn't be able to reconcile that with what they proclaim of love and peace with the other hand they're invading nations and slaughtering en masse.
There's NO such problem in Islam so long as it is merited.
Your feelings otherwise are your own. The law shouldn't and doesn't run on feelings. I guess that is the problem here folks proclaiming justice is blind but seem to not honor that notion!
Also the whole death penalty doesn't change things is a rumor run by well opponents of the death penlaty. All we need to do is compare crime rates in places where they impose it verses those that don't!
Either way it isn't about 'reduction' of crimes- it is about carriage of justice!

best,

 

[observer]

Maybe you'd a christian upbringing. I too wouldn't be able to reconcile that with what they proclaim of love and peace with the other hand they're invading nations and slaughtering en masse.
There's NO such problem in Islam so long as it is merited.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with religion or religious upbringing. It's the very concept of an-eye-for-an-eye, a-life-for-a-life which seems utterly barbaric and unnecessary in the modern world.

 

[جوري]

It has nothing whatsoever to do with religion or religious upbringing. It's the very concept of an-eye-for-an-eye, a-life-for-a-life which seems utterly barbaric and unnecessary in the modern world.

I see crime is barbaric & unnecessary in any world!

best,

 

[islamica]

by Allah I was going to say the same!
I keep going back to the story of 6 year old Megan after which Megan law was passed pls google it. He killed her and chopped her and skinned her after he raped her. Then some idiot comes and changes his sentence citing the ' barbarism' of the death penalty!
And what he did to that girl well that was a walk in the park! Hypocrites who side with criminals at the expense of the tax payers with no regard to justice the victim or the grieving families!
As I said before until it happens to their kid or their sister or niece or mother they'll cry you a river of BS several pages long!

they can cry rivers all they want and the hypocrites can defend them all they want, but you go to these non-muslims in any western country whose family member was murdered, raped and what have you, every one of them will want an islamic justice as oppose to their fake justice.

 

[Pygoscelis]

It has nothing whatsoever to do with religion or religious upbringing. It's the very concept of an-eye-for-an-eye, a-life-for-a-life which seems utterly barbaric and unnecessary in the modern world.

And that doesn't even mention the fact that if you have the death penalty, every wrongly convicted becomes a state sponsored murder of an innocent. When we discover we've wrongly convicted somebody, and yes it will happen, then do we send the prosecutor and judge and jury to the gallows?

 

[Pygoscelis]

they can cry rivers all they want and the hypocrites can defend them all they want, but you go to these non-muslims in any western country whose family member was murdered, raped and what have you, every one of them will want an islamic justice as oppose to their fake justice.

The law shouldn't and doesn't run on feelings.

Vengeance is not a rational basis for a legal system. It solves nothing.

 

[جوري]

Vengeance is not a rational basis for a legal system. It solves nothing.

carriage of justice and punishment befitting of the crime is rational in fact!

best,

 

[Karl]

You strike me as gun toting anyways and shooting the heads off anyone who crosses your foyer, so I was surprised to your response here then I quickly retracted that surprise, since she's both a woman and black so that's enough to rouse some misogynist feelings in you!
& no I am not a feminist I love men, reasoned, wise, warriors and statesmen the likes of Khalid & Umar a far cry from the type we've now a days!

best,

Are you replying to me? I did not know she was black anyway. It wouldn't matter as all Americans are brainwashed under the same system of extreme feminist hysteria. Their extreme phobia of the fact that minors are sexual beings. Their fear turns to hate and their hate turns to violence. They have lost objective reasoning.

This is how I would have handled it if I had a son who got groped by a man. My son complains to me about it, I would just say "tell him you are not gay and you don't like being groped and if he keeps doing it you will report him to the police". If my son was gay and liked doing things with men he would probably not tell me for fear that I would not be pleased with him, so I would be none the wiser.

 

[islamica]

My son complains to me about it, I would just say "tell him you are not gay and you don't like being groped and if he keeps doing it you will report him to the police"[/B]. If my son was gay and liked doing things with men he would probably not tell me for fear that I would not be pleased with him, so I would be none the wiser.

That is just plain sick and revolting, this is the difference between those who love their kids and want to protect them and those void of any real feelings.

carriage of justice and punishment befitting of the crime is rational in fact!

best,

The hypocrites will cry and whine, especially the so called human "rights" activists. I feel like they should be the first one punished with the same crime so they can see the victim's side for once .

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