Things in Islam I am curious about...

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Why are some Muslims known as salafis and some not?


According to our scholars, minor variations over interpretation in fiqh matters (jurisprudence) are allowed, but not in aqeeda (belief), so this is not an issue for the mainstream Muslims.
 
According to our scholars, minor variations over interpretation in fiqh matters (jurisprudence) are allowed, but not in aqeeda (belief), so this is not an issue for the mainstream Muslims.


I've always thought that what one believes, effects behavior, as I know of know behavior that is not born out of one's beliefs.
 
i always thought music was allowed once upon a time.
,and a revelation was made to prohibit it....similary to Wine.
correct nme if i'm wrong.
i don't have any sources but i read it somewhere a while back.
 
Salam Alaikum,

Imam Ghazali, one of the accepted great scholars in Islam, categorizes music as some being halal (permissible), some haram (prohibited) in his book "Ulum-u d-Din".

The reality of musics, as other matters, is that, if it intrigues the lust, then it's considered to be haram.
 
Salaam/peace;

Why are some Muslims known as salafis and some not,


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.......But when one asks a Muslim, who are you, the common answer is either I am a Sunni, or I am Shia.





Some mention subjects and call themselves Hanafi, or Shafi or Maliki. Some say I am a Deobandi, while some others say I am a Barelvi. Some say I am a Bohra and some others call themselves Aga Khani or Ismaili.



One may ask such Muslims, Who was our beloved prophet (Pbuh)? Was he a Hanafi or a Shafi, or a Hambali or a Maliki?


No! He was a Muslim, like all the other prophets and messengers of Allah before him.





It is mentioned in chapter 3 verse 52 of Al-Qur’an that Jesus (Pbuh) was a Muslim. Further, in chapter 3 verse 67, Al-Qur’an says that Ibrahim (Pbuh) was not a Jew or a Christian but was a Muslim.



3. If anyone poses a Muslim the question who are you, he should say I am a MUSLIM, not a Hanafi or a Shafi. No verse of the Qur’an encourages a Muslim to call himself a Hanafi or a Shafi.



In Surah Fussilat chapter 41 verse 33:
Who is better in speech Than one who calls (men)
To Allah, works righteousness, And says, I am of those
Who bow in Islam (Muslim)? [Al-Qur’an 41:33]
The Qur’an says: “Say I am of those who bow in Islam. In other words, say, I am a Muslim.”



4. The Prophet (Pbuh) dictated a letter, to be sent to the Emperor of Persia, inviting him to accept Islam. In this letter he mentioned the verse of the Qur’an from Surah Al- Imran chapter 3 verse 64:


Say ye: Bear witness That we (at least) Are Muslims (bowing To Allah’s Will). [Al-Qur’an 3:64]




5. We must respect all the great scholars of Islam, including the four Imaams, Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam Shafi, Imam Hanbal and Imam Malik. They were great scholars and may Allah reward them for their research and hardwork.



One can have no objection if someone agrees with the views and research of Imam Abu Hanifa or Imam Shafi, etc. But when posed a question, who are you, the reply should only be I am a Muslim.



6. Some may argue by quoting the Hadith of our beloved Prophet from Abu Dawood Hadith no 4579. In this Hadith the prophet (Pbuh) is reported to have said, My community will be split up into seventy-three sects.
This Hadith reports that the prophet predicted the emergence of seventy-three sects.



He did not say Muslims should be active in dividing themselves into sects. The Glorious Qur’an commands us not to create sects. Those who follow the teachings of the Qur’an and Sahih Hadith, and do not create sects are the people who are on the true path.




According to Tirmidhi Hadith no 171, the Prophet (Pbuh) is reported to have said, My Ummah will be fragmented into seventy-three sects, and all of them will be in hell fire except one sect.


The companions, asked Allah’s messenger which group that would be. Whereupon he replied, It is the one to which I and my companions belong
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The Glorious Qur’an mentions in several verses, Obey Allah and obey His Messenger. A true Muslim should only follow the Glorious Qur’an and the Sahih Hadith.



He can agree with the views of any scholar as long as they conform to the teachings of the Qur’an and Sahih Hadith. If such views go against the Word of Allah, or the Sunnah of His prophet, then they carry no weight, regardless of how learned the scholar might be.



If only all Muslims read the Qur’an with understanding and adhere to Sahih Hadith, Inshallah most of these differences would be solved and we could be one united Muslim Ummah.

By Dr. Zakir Naik

(The author is the president of Islamic Research Foundation, mumbai. Email: [email protected], http://www.irf.net)




http://www.islamicvoice.com/may.99/ZAKIR.HTM


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I read this today:
Abu-Darda' reported: I heard the Messenger of Allah (Salallahu Alayhi Wassalam) saying, "Whenever a Muslim supplicates for his Muslim brother in his absence, the angels say: `May the same be for you too'.''

How is that significantly different than the Catholic practice of asking for saints already living in heaven to pray for them? Both are trusting in another being to offer prayers to God on their behalf and expecting that somehow this will have a meritorius effect in their own life.
 
I read this today:

How is that significantly different than the Catholic practice of asking for saints already living in heaven to pray for them? Both are trusting in another being to offer prayers to God on their behalf and expecting that somehow this will have a meritorius effect in their own life.
I don't know about this "already living in heaven" part, but an obvious difference is that the Catholic saints, e.g. Saint Chistopher, are dead and the Muslim brother is still living on earth. A prime example is that we Muslims don't petition Prophet Muhammad to pray to Allah for us.
 
Salaam/peace;

I read this today:

How is that significantly different than the Catholic practice of asking for saints already living in heaven to pray for them? Both are trusting in another being to offer prayers to God on their behalf and expecting that somehow this will have a meritorius effect in their own life.

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I don't know about this "already living in heaven" part, but an obvious difference is that the Catholic saints, e.g. Saint Chistopher, are dead and the Muslim brother is still living on earth. A prime example is that we Muslims don't petition Prophet Muhammad to pray to Allah for us.




Salaam/peace;
Saints are already dead , right ? Ask dead / living saints or anyone except God to accept a prayer is considered as shirk in Islam .


Muslims are encouraged to offer dua for others , even for non-Muslims. Prayer to God for other Muslims/ non-Muslims.....it's a totally different thing .
(sorry, I copied you before you revised your post :D ) Is not this also your post:
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it's a common belief in my country that when we offer darud , angels take that darud to the Prophet (p) . Yes , many believe Allah will accept the dua / will allow the Prophet (p ) on the last day to intercession for Muslims .
Do you see the internal contradiction in them?

On the one hand you say: Ask dead / living saints or anyone except God to accept a prayer is considered as shirk in Islam .
And then you also say: when we offer darud , angels take that darud to the Prophet (p). Yes , many believe Allah will accept the dua / will allow the Prophet (p ) on the last day to intercession for Muslims.

What is intercession, except a form of prayer?

Mustafa, perhaps Muslims in Mississippi don't petition Prophet Muhammad to pray to Allah for you, but apparently some who live where Muslim Woman does actually have that expectation.






On the other part of your comments, No, saints are NOT dead. Their earthly bodies may have perished, but they are still alive. None of us ever truly dies, we all live forever, some with God and some apart from God, but it is only the body that dies, not the person.


And what I infer from the quoted passage above is that one has the expectation that angels (i.e. a being other than God) to take our prayers and present them to God. That is exactly what the Catholics are thinking when they "pray to" saints. As I've said other places, I've learned that Catholics aren't really praying to the saints as much as they are praying through them. The prayers are actually still directed ultimately to God and not to any human being (dead or alive) as if they had any power or agency with regard to the prayer. What Catholics are doing is asking another individual to pray for them. And here I see Muslims asking a living brother and angels in heaven to pray for them. So, I don't get the difference.
 
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I wanna ask, if Moses and Abraham were muslims according to Quaran so when and how judaism was born?
 
On the one hand you say: Ask dead / living saints or anyone except God to accept a prayer is considered as shirk in Islam .
And then you also say: when we offer darud , angels take that darud to the Prophet (p). Yes , many believe Allah will accept the dua / will allow the Prophet (p ) on the last day to intercession for Muslims.

What is intercession, except a form of prayer?
The final portion of salah is supplication to Allah to bless Muhammad and is known as the darud: O Allaah! send prayers on Muhammad, and on the family of Muhammad, as you sent prayers on Ibraaheem, and on the family of Ibraaheem; You are indeed Worthy of Praise, Full of Glory. O Allaah! send blessings on Muhammad, and on the family of Muhammad, as you sent blessings on Ibraaheem, and on the family of Ibraaheem; You are indeed Worthy of Praise, Full of Glory. As you have stated, while our bodies die, a portion of us (our soul) lives on in the grave until Judgment Day. My understanding is that the angels take our supplications to Allah for Him to bless Muhammad on to him in the grave. We also believe that, on that Day, Muhammad will make intercession before Allah for us. He will also intercede over time for Muslims sent to the Hellfire such that they will all eventually be released.
Mustafa, perhaps Muslims in Mississippi don't petition Prophet Muhammad to pray to Allah for you, but apparently some who live where Muslim Woman does actually have that expectation.
No, I don't see that this is true. I think there is a misunderstanding as I don't see that Muslim Woman prays to Muhammad. Those who pray to dead people are commiting shirk.
On the other part of your comments, No, saints are NOT dead. Their earthly bodies may have perished, but they are still alive. None of us ever truly dies, we all live forever, some with God and some apart from God, but it is only the body that dies, not the person.
Technically, it is the soul that does not die and it will be reunited with the body on Judgment Day.
And what I infer from the quoted passage above is that one has the expectation that angels (i.e. a being other than God) to take our prayers and present them to God.
I don't know that angels take our salah to Allah. I believe that He receives them directly. If I am wrong, someone please correct me.
That is exactly what the Catholics are thinking when they "pray to" saints. As I've said other places, I've learned that Catholics aren't really praying to the saints as much as they are praying through them. The prayers are actually still directed ultimately to God and not to any human being (dead or alive) as if they had any power or agency with regard to the prayer. What Catholics are doing is asking another individual to pray for them. And here I see Muslims asking a living brother and angels in heaven to pray for them. So, I don't get the difference.
Yes, I accept that it is reasonable to ask a living person that one holds in higher esteem to pray to Allah for you. We don't ask angels or dead folks to pray for us. That is the difference.
 
I wanna ask, if Moses and Abraham were muslims according to Quaran so when and how judaism was born?

Perhaps by gradually slipping away from what it originaly was. I do not see it much different from the formation of denominations.

No different than how Mormanism, JW's, etc formed. They did not stay on the same path.
 
Perhaps by gradually slipping away from what it originaly was. I do not see it much different from the formation of denominations.

No different than how Mormanism, JW's, etc formed. They did not stay on the same path.

They didnt stay on same path? I thought that the Jews' biggest mistake was not to accept muslim prophet Muhammed. They believe in the one and only God right?
Anyway,
1.how you explain that for the most part of the history B.C (before Christ), Greeks, Romans and Persians called them Jews? These people also followed judaistic tradition(like observing the Shabbat,having names like Isaac, Jacob,David). You say that these people were in fact muslims?
2. When muslim Isa appeared to Palestina were there any muslims or just Jews?
3. If there were just Jews in Palestina(who already accept one and only God) so with what message did Isa come to them?
4. According to muslim beliefs all muslims before times of Muhammad were Israelis? Because only Israelis(Jews in our tradition) prayed to one and only God in ancient times.
5. Before the times of Muhammed,did Jews and muslim lived together? Were there more Jews or muslims?
 
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Very good questions Aaron. One of the things that I see that brings about the misunderstandings amongst the Abrahamic beliefs, is the difficulty in understanding what is meant by Islam and Muslim. A Muslim being a person who submits to Allaah(swt). At one time the people we have come to call Jews did submit to the will of God(swt) and were Muslim. The same with Christians.

They didnt stay on same path? I thought that the Jews' biggest mistake was not to accept muslim prophet Muhammed. They believe in the one and only God right?

Perhaps it would be more correct to say they failed to stay on the path that was revealed to them. Yes, they do worship the same God(swt). The question is how many changes and innovations were added or subtracted.

Anyway,
1.how you explain that for the most part of the history B.C (before Christ), Greeks, Romans and Persians called them Jews? These people also followed judaistic tradition(like observing the Shabbat,having names like Isaac, Jacob,David). You say that these people were in fact muslims?

What occured to cause them to stop from being Muslim? They began as being true submitters to God(swt) and did submit as they were directed to for the particular people at the paticular time.


2. When muslim Isa appeared to Palestina were there any muslims or just Jews?

There were Jews that submitted to God(swt), they may have called themselves Jews, but if they submitted to God(swt) they were Muslim. Prophet Isa came to restore the message thathad been lost or changed. Those that followed him were Muslim as they did submit to God(swt)


3. If there were just Jews in Palestina(who already accept one and only God) so with what message did Isa come to them?

He came with the correction to return people back to what the original message was.
 
Yes, I understand the islamic concept that all people before the times of Muhammad submitting to one God were muslims(althought that they might called themselves Jews). It would sound reasonable but the problem are Jews(as always :P) and judaism. Because that small ancient nation tells that they submit to one God since about 4 000 years and they still continue doing this. there is contunuation in their faith and tradition. For them islam(just like christianity) is something that appeared sudennly(in VII th century in Arabia exactly). They have it all written in their scriptures.
 
They didnt stay on same path? I thought that the Jews' biggest mistake was not to accept muslim prophet Muhammed. They believe in the one and only God right?
Anyway,
1.how you explain that for the most part of the history B.C (before Christ), Greeks, Romans and Persians called them Jews? These people also followed judaistic tradition(like observing the Shabbat,having names like Isaac, Jacob,David). You say that these people were in fact muslims?
2. When muslim Isa appeared to Palestina were there any muslims or just Jews?
3. If there were just Jews in Palestina(who already accept one and only God) so with what message did Isa come to them?
4. According to muslim beliefs all muslims before times of Muhammad were Israelis? Because only Israelis(Jews in our tradition) prayed to one and only God in ancient times.
5. Before the times of Muhammed,did Jews and muslim lived together? Were there more Jews or muslims?


Aaron, does your confusion have to do with the use of the term muslim to describe a person who follows Islam or with the use of the term Muslim to describe people who follow the teachings of Muhammad? See, depending on which of the two meanings you are using it is possible for a person to think that Moses, David, even Jesus himself where all muslims (small "m"). If Islam is understand as being that which is in submission to Allah/God/Yahweh, then those Jews (descendants of Judah, Jacob, Isaac, and Abraham), or anyone else of any ethnicity, who lived their lives in true submission to God are in a since all muslms. They weren't Muslims, (capital "M") followers of the teachings of Muhammad, as he had not yet come. But today Muslims believe that what Muhammad taught and what all the true prophets of Israel taught before him was the same basic message. So, what ever name they went by, they were in essence muslims, practicioners of the Islam of Allah. But Muslims also hold that just as some Muslims today drift away, so too did muslims that were known as Jews. In time this drift was so significant that few Jews were in fact muslims any more. And after Christianity entered the picture that Allah so felt the need to do something about the perversion that had taken place that he sent Muhammad as a correction to the drift.


Not saying I buy all of that, and it probably isn't expressed in the same terms that a modern-day Muslim would express it, but that is what I have garnered is the Islamic view on this matter. I hope that helps some.




Please, my brothers who practice Islam, if I have mis-spoken, correct me and I will either edit or take down this post.
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ah, I see that Brother Woodrow posted during the time that I was writing, perhaps his answer is the one you will benefit from more than mine.
 
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Grace Seeker, I understand the muslim concept since few years actually. I know what they think. I just wanted to point out that the existence of jews and judaism is a big problem for this thinking. Why? Because they are those who are involved(by muslims) in islamic theology and they say - "No, their concept is wrong. Our religion's destination wasnt Muhammad. We are not what they say that we are. We have papers to prove our statements."
 
Grace Seeker, I understand the muslim concept since few years actually. I know what they think. I just wanted to point out that the existence of jews and judaism is a big problem for this thinking. Why? Because they are those who are involved(by muslims) in islamic theology and they say - "No, their concept is wrong. Our religion's destination wasnt Muhammad. We are not what they say that we are. We have papers to prove our statements."

Now is a good time to have the input of any of our Jewish members. I do not want to attempt to speak for any Jewish Members, but it seems to me this is an issue the Jews have with us and not an issue among Muslims.
 

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