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I find it hard to talk with you. I rarely know how to best receive your comments. I am not sure whether you are being inquisitive, facetious, sarcastic, argumentative, or if you really are that completely in the dark. I have trouble believing that you are truly ignorant of these things as you say that at one time you were in seminary preparing for the priesthood. Though, based on what you express as a lack of understanding, perhaps this was just the very brief sortie of a young man not yet mature in his own thinking; if so, that would explain a lot of things in your posts.
By "church" I mean all the people of God from all of human history who belong to him by virtue of their faith in Jesus Christ. I do not mean the Roman Catholic definition of just those who belong to the Catholic church. If you believe that the Church evolved over time then the term would apply to what ever group existed at that particular point of time in history.
I am sure you realize not all of the fellowship of original believers were devoured by lions. Many of then died from natural cause, but all are of coure dead today. In that sense I suppose the original church is gone, but that doesn't mean they were unable to pass on their faith to others. Did you know that the church actually grew in size during the time of the persecution? More people converted to become Christians than the Romans were able to feed to the lions or kill by all the other means they tried.
I'm sorry if I sounded sarcastic, no disrespect meant... I respect your opinion about me... well, thats your opinion and I won't contest that.
With regards to the "church" issue... Muslims call their fellowship as Ummah... this refers to the whole Muslim community around the world... one ummah only. (excluding all non-muslims or so called muslim sects)
The Roman Catholics' perspective of church is limited only to the Catholics... and their ecumenical comunities... I am aware there are non-catholic christian communities have a bigger perspective of the church.
The reason I asked what church is to determine the perspective from where it's coming from.
Anyway, I guess it's not that important, you have answered it anyway. Just disregard the issue.
May Allah guide us to achieve noble endeavours.
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