Why does God demand worship?

[aadil77]

I assumed your question(s) to be rhetorical. They don't have a great deal of relevance to the discussion at hand.

stop evading and just answer.

They are completely relevent because by your logic anything god does or wants from us can be out of 'desires' or from 'lacking self esteem' or 'confidence'

 

[EllyDicious]

what's your definition to reward ?
How can you give reward to people if they haven't done any work. It will be ridiculous to give the same reward to all humans : those who believed in God and those who didn't, those who worshipped God and obeyed his orders and those who didn't. This whole life will have no sense.

This whole life makes perfect sense. You are rewarded in this life. You get what you give, in this life. You'll get punished in this life.

What goes around, comes back around ... IN THIS LIFE.

 

[aadil77]

Still the reward is conditioned. It goes back to what I said. It's a conditional love. Worship me and I'll reward you.

Yh it is conditioned, everything you own, everything that exists is Allah's, He wants you to worship him either you play by His rules (which aren't difficult) or you get punished for it - simple.

In the same way if you accept His commands, you'll get rewarded for it immensely, much more than the effort you put into it

 

[aadil77]

This whole life makes perfect sense. You are rewarded in this life. You get what you give, in this life. You'll get punished in this life.

What goes around, comes back around ... IN THIS LIFE.

thats a stupid thing to say, how do people suffering in poverty get rewarded in this life? Was it their fault they were born into it - is it punshment?

 

[marwen]

This whole life makes perfect sense. You are rewarded in this life. You get what you give, in this life. You'll get punished in this life.

What goes around, comes back around ... IN THIS LIFE.

My Sister, you really have an interesting vision of life. But what about people who killed innocent people and escaped : they're not punished. What about good people who give charity to others ? did they get a check with at least the money they spent when they come back home ? You will find many examples showing that this life is not "fair". There must be continuation in the afterlife to reward good people or punish bad ones. We need to look at the big picture, not only at this short life, otherwise we will feel very upset about our life.

 

[aadil77]

she's ran out of brain cells, she's finding it hard to prove her disbelief in truth

 

[EllyDicious]

My Sister, you really have an interesting vision of life. But what about people who killed innocent people and escaped : they're not punished.

Don't worry.
God can be late, but He never forgets

What about good people who give charity to others ? did they get a check with at least the money they spent when they come back home ? You will find many examples showing that this life is not "fair". There must be continuation in the afterlife to reward good people or punish bad ones. We need to look at the big picture, not only at this short life, otherwise we will feel very upset about our life.

You should not forget that life changes and it's never the same. If today you're going down, tomorrow you'll go up or the opposite.

 

[omar ibrahim]

I don't think I'm limiting him. I think you guys are limiting him by giving him some human attributes that make Him sound low in character.

Firstly we dont give him some human attributes in fact islam is the only religion which does not compare the creator,we believe that the creator is above the creation

not a human neither has thoughts of creation.Muslims do not paint pictures for the creator like many religions do almost all.The sort of worshipping is by obying him

according to the final scripture the holy quran.^^


We all will go back to filth. Do you think you'll be living eternally?
We all will die someday [whether you're a believer or not].
He chose to give me life, I didn't ask him to give me life so I'm not obligated to worship Him. [Sure, I THANK Him for giving me life ... no doubt].

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[omar ibrahim]

Don't worry.
God can be late, but He never forgets

ok good to know that you believe that they will not run out from God s punishment

You should not forget that life changes and it's never the same. If today you're going down, tomorrow you'll go up or the opposite.

Sorry sister you are absolutely,wrong sorry for saying that, some people born as riches and die as riches and same the opposite same the good people and bad people ^^,so is not right that God has to judge them?^^

 

[omar ibrahim]

she's ran out of brain cells, she's finding it hard to prove her disbelief in truth

never say that brother,she is following her opinions and thinks that God will leave us without a guidance even if you dont believe in the next life you should at least believe that God will not leave us
without a guidance because you believe that God is justice as you mentiond
This whole life makes perfect sense. You are rewarded in this life. You get what you give, in this life. You'll get punished in this life.

What goes around, comes back around ... IN THIS LIFE.

and

Don't worry.
God can be late, but He never forgets

^^

 

[omar ibrahim]

Though I didn't ask Him, the fact that He brought me here, means I was worthy enough to come into this world ok so did hetler and osama ^^


We'll never know the reasons behind our existence, but apparently this world needs us.
I prefer you use I in instead of we ^^

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[EllyDicious]

Sorry sister you are absolutely,wrong sorry for saying that, some people born as riches and die as riches and same the opposite same the good people and bad people ^^,so is not right that God has to judge them?^^

Do you think being rich is happiness???
God gives you something with one hand, and takes it with the other hand.
Rich people have more problems in their life than normal/poor people. Rich people may never be happy in their life. Money doesn't buy happiness.

There's a price you have to pay for being rich.

 

[EllyDicious]

ok so did hetler and osama

God decided to bring them into this life for reasons we don't know yet.
So yes, the world needed them, too.

God knows it better.

 

[Supreme]

stop evading and just answer.

They are completely relevent because by your logic anything god does or wants from us can be out of 'desires' or from 'lacking self esteem' or 'confidence'

Can you repost the questions?

 

[Dagless]

You should not forget that life changes and it's never the same. If today you're going down, tomorrow you'll go up or the opposite.

What about the people it doesn't change for? Those born with disabilities? Those who are never ill a day in their lives? Those who die as children or at birth? Things are not as even as you think. There is balance but the bigger punishments and rewards are to come.

 

[omar ibrahim]

Do you think being rich is happiness???
God gives you something with one hand, and takes it with the other hand.
Rich people have more problems in their life than normal/poor people. Rich people may never be happy in their life. Money doesn't buy happiness.<<no rich is not the only thing i agree that some rich people have no happiness in their life but some do have even though they are bad,ok let us leave happiness what about killers steallers rappers etc who did not cautch by the police
how about hitler who killed 6 millions souls!! commmmon

There's a price you have to pay for being rich.<<i am a rich and i am happy is it fare for poor people?

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[omar ibrahim]

God decided to bring them into this life for reasons we don't know yet.
So yes, the world needed them, too.

ok nice answers ^^

My question is should not be the person who killed 6 millions souls be punished?


God knows it better. i congaritulate you for saying that ^^

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[CosmicPathos]

Don't worry.
God can be late, but He never forgets


You should not forget that life changes and it's never the same. If today you're going down, tomorrow you'll go up or the opposite.

That does not change the injustices.

You are influenced by Karmic philosophy I think. We will suffer in this life whatever we do eh? Hindus believe that a man is reborn in different forms depending on his Karma. If he attains Mukti through religious worship, he will not be born again and that is the closest to the concept of heaven in Hindus.

 

[aadil77]

Can you repost the questions?

here's the links to the posts

http://www.islamicboard.com/showthr...mand-worship&p=1320235&viewfull=1#post1320235

http://www.islamicboard.com/showthr...mand-worship&p=1320564&viewfull=1#post1320564

 

[aadil77]

God decided to bring them into this life for reasons we don't know yet.
So yes, the world needed them, too.

God knows it better.

You don't make any sense, first you said you get punished and rewarded in this life, when clearly hitler did not get punished

now you're saying god makes people sin

sounds like you're making this up as you go, you really are confused?!