Why is Iran upsetting God

[*charisma*]

Assalamu alaikum

stands for "point of view" sis

fi aman Allah
w'salaam

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

Am lost again...POV....:?

lol POV = Point of View

 

[Lush]

lol i've faced this fact ages ago! i as a muslim cant stand the western culture. Due to the women i cant look anywhere apart from the floor, i avoid so many shops due to the music, you cant get on a bus wivout seeing a dirty poster sumwhere its disgusting. This civilization is slowly losing all its morals. aah ur question is very good, let me explain how it works.

You know, Majid, I've got quite a number of Muslim friends living with me in the scary ol' West, and honestly, I haven't observed them have any problems with what you have described. Perhaps they are simply "bad" Muslims and should be takfired and/or beheaded, or something, but perhaps they are simply... gosh... I don't know, secure in their faith? There might be a lesson here.

The ignorant are left to enjoy there so called "fruits". They dwelve deeper and deeper till one day Allah takes it away and leaves them in despair. Do you kno why he allowed them to dwelve? So they may repent, its basically giving them a chance, when he see's that they are so ignorant that they are just lost thats when he strikes. Now lets think about all the people who have lost there so called "love" and all the people who are suffering... im sure even you root have some experience of what im talking about. Thinking ur happy doing that which is clearly wrong but then one day having it taken away... this is whats happening to the west. Its a slow process, but it happens! As for the third world countries and such they are in the same predicament, every1 has there own unique way of life, but certainly its all evaluated on an equal level.

I hate to sound like a BNP spokeswoman, but as someone who chose to remain in the West after moving here, despite what I see as it's various problems, I really don't understand why a person who genuinely "can't stand" the culture would not want to leave.

What's keeping you here? Are you too young to move on your own? Or perhaps there is a certain level of security that comes with living in the "evil" West? The job market is fairly stable, a relatively open society ensures that no secret police is going to be banging down your door any time soon (places like Gitmo notwithstanding, of course), freedom speech generally allows people to share viewpoints without getting locked up, and corruption is fairly low when compared to a lot of economically destabilized countries.

Of course, there are other, infinitely more important things that keep me, personally, in the West, and have encouraged me to get my American citizenship recently, and they include art and culture as well as certain values I hold dear, but I can't for the life of me understand why someone who professes to be so miserable would choose to remain. Heck, my parents didn't stick around. They were unhappy, for reasons of their own. And they made the tough decision to move back to a developing country and fight the many problems that arose from that decision. But they at least made a choice.

I'm not sure why you, personally, would want to stick around after reading this outpouring such tremendous distaste. Perhaps this is something that you would like to keep private, and it's not my place to ask such a question. But it troubles me deeply when a person who is so unhappy would want to remain, and even slander the environment they occupied. I, for example, spent a couple of months in Jordan recently. I was treated exceptionally well, loved the country, and I could get a pretty decent job there, but I know that life in Jordan wouldn't make me as happy as I would be in the States, or Britain, or Canada, so I have no long-term plans to come back. It's a conscious decision.

Perhaps it may be a good idea for you to get together with Muslims who actually like living in the West, and have a decent time of it? Perhaps that would better inform your viewpoint?

 

[cleo]

hhhmmmm,

Interesting replies. But then if Islam is the way why is it not the West that he targets? Let's face it Islam don't exactly adore the Western culture and if we look at Islamic morality then surely the west are the worse sinners (according to islam).......

Why does he seem to inflict death to children within cultures that are striving to be as Islamic as thay can yet the West could not care 2 monkeys about it, yet are left to enjoy such fruits?............

Maybe it is the other way around, backward thinking, it is the evil western Government that will suffer?