ok well i dont know about "proper" answers, heres some examples in the real world of how islam deals with witchcraft for one
i did have a link here for a website in a news report about a woman being beheaded but it wont let me post it in here, basically its the story of a woman being beheaded for witchcraft under sharia in saudi arabia it isnt too hard to find on google and numberous sources show it.
I clicked on YOUR links and got this from your link to a website
The penalty:
The penalty for the one who steals (when the above conditions are met) is that his/her right arm is amputated. If a person steals a second time, his left foot is amputated; if a third time, then he will be imprisoned until he repents, but no further amputation will take place.
I dont see how that is different from the text that i copied and pasted from a quran verse. youre calling me ignorant and typing in such an angry manner yet youre acting like youre trying to back up my claims. I claimed that the quran says amputate the hands of theives, you present me with a link backing up my claim, its quite confusing.
Your third link concerning the beating of wives says that the quran doesnt mean to say beat it means "splash in the face with water" then gives lots of contradictory verses showing how the quran and hadiths also say respect women.
Since you dont respect translations of the quran i wont show you translation after translation that i can find of qurans on the internet that use the word "beat" and not "splash in the face with water" coincidently another person has told me it means "tap with an arab style toothpick" which is even more hilarious and unbelievable.
Id also say some muslims would argue against your translation
"Such an attitude is not uncommon amongst socially-conservative Muslims who are “religious” in a formal sense: for example, a conservative leader of Indian Muslims is said to have given a public statement in 2010 denouncing a new law in India that criminalised domestic violence, thus: “They are taking away our divine right to hit our wives.”
By the way as i said i dont claim to know exactly what the quran means or what muslims should do, i wouldnt have a chance of doing that since your god seems to concentrate mainly on spreading the message in arabic.
But lets just assume your right, the quran is a book that never ever says beat your wife and so on, my point is that for a book written by god and which people claim is so perfect, it seems to have unclear messages to those who read it, hence, some muslims are terrorists, some muslims are friendly moral heroic people, some muslims ban music, some muslims are musicians, some muslims think beating their wife is ok, some dont. And so on and so on and so on.
And sticking to the topic of the thread id say this points to the reason of some of the violence in the islamic world. Shia vs sunni for example.
By the way id just like to add for anyone who wants to accuse me of being a scholar again, i am definitely not one.
i did have a link here for a website in a news report about a woman being beheaded but it wont let me post it in here, basically its the story of a woman being beheaded for witchcraft under sharia in saudi arabia it isnt too hard to find on google and numberous sources show it.
I clicked on YOUR links and got this from your link to a website
The penalty:
The penalty for the one who steals (when the above conditions are met) is that his/her right arm is amputated. If a person steals a second time, his left foot is amputated; if a third time, then he will be imprisoned until he repents, but no further amputation will take place.
I dont see how that is different from the text that i copied and pasted from a quran verse. youre calling me ignorant and typing in such an angry manner yet youre acting like youre trying to back up my claims. I claimed that the quran says amputate the hands of theives, you present me with a link backing up my claim, its quite confusing.
Your third link concerning the beating of wives says that the quran doesnt mean to say beat it means "splash in the face with water" then gives lots of contradictory verses showing how the quran and hadiths also say respect women.
Since you dont respect translations of the quran i wont show you translation after translation that i can find of qurans on the internet that use the word "beat" and not "splash in the face with water" coincidently another person has told me it means "tap with an arab style toothpick" which is even more hilarious and unbelievable.
Id also say some muslims would argue against your translation
"Such an attitude is not uncommon amongst socially-conservative Muslims who are “religious” in a formal sense: for example, a conservative leader of Indian Muslims is said to have given a public statement in 2010 denouncing a new law in India that criminalised domestic violence, thus: “They are taking away our divine right to hit our wives.”
By the way as i said i dont claim to know exactly what the quran means or what muslims should do, i wouldnt have a chance of doing that since your god seems to concentrate mainly on spreading the message in arabic.
But lets just assume your right, the quran is a book that never ever says beat your wife and so on, my point is that for a book written by god and which people claim is so perfect, it seems to have unclear messages to those who read it, hence, some muslims are terrorists, some muslims are friendly moral heroic people, some muslims ban music, some muslims are musicians, some muslims think beating their wife is ok, some dont. And so on and so on and so on.
And sticking to the topic of the thread id say this points to the reason of some of the violence in the islamic world. Shia vs sunni for example.
By the way id just like to add for anyone who wants to accuse me of being a scholar again, i am definitely not one.
