100% proof that jesus is NOT god

[Muslim Woman]

salaam/peace;

PurestAmbrosia : I have personally no problems if they think Jesus is God, or 'Holy spirit' is God, or the pope or Mary or whomever, I just expect that they admit that, such a conclusion has positively nothing to do with Monotheism!

this too, they will never agree to. they are very advanced in higher maths!

lol :giggling:

 

[Omari]

But jesus christ never claimed divinity, the verses in the bible are mistranslated into english, or are changed by the people to make it look as if he did. OR he was misunderstood by his followers.

The concept of Jesus Christ is very clear in Islam, he was raised BODILY to the heavens and somone else was replaced to be cruicified.

Peace, Omari

 

[truemuslim]

why would god take the form of a human? Humans eat and ''poo'' very not god like characteristics wouldnt you agree? if god wanted to come down in a form that we can see then surely it wouldnt be a human?? it would be something much higher than that!! and something much more perfect...
why did jesus eat? Why did he use the bathroom?(we as humans are ashamed of that, thats why we do our business in a private area) if he was god than surely he woudnt need doing all this..?

wa allahu a3lam

salam

lol verry good point... but we all kno they are gonna regret it all... even if god came down with all the angels they prolly still wouldnt believe it.. if they did they would bring a NEW book and write all about it...then mix the words up a bit..

 

[Omari]

lol verry good point... but we all kno they are gonna regret it all... even if god came down with all the angels they prolly still wouldnt believe it.. if they did they would bring a NEW book and write all about it...then mix the words up a bit..

LOL,
how true

Salam
Omari

 

[truemuslim]

^^^ hey watch this a minute later with a bunch of athest and christys and agnostic pplz fighting bout this...

"its all lies"
"where is ur proof?"
"jesus is god no matter what"
"im too busy making my site...i dunt have time for this!! here is my site quraniswrong.net.hell.com "

 

[Omari]

LOL. i am so ready for it

 

[truemuslim]

LOOOLLL bro.. ok debater... enjoy..and ignore everything not worth it.. lol... here they come...any sec now...

alrighty then...
i be back tomorow... there isl ike 100 posts right now... i be back and there is gonna be llike 200...i isnt kiddin...byebye ..and

 

[Keltoi]

Honestly I've had enough with this thread. I made the mistake of getting involved because I saw such atrocious misunderstanding and misrepresentation of Scripture. So as always we're back to square one...Christians have their faith and Muslims have theirs.

 

[Omari]

Honestly I've had enough with this thread. I made the mistake of getting involved because I saw such atrocious misunderstanding and misrepresentation of Scripture. So as always we're back to square one...Christians have their faith and Muslims have theirs.

The point isn't exactly to prove anything. Atleast not to me, when I get involved in these debates I WANT to learn more, about christianity, about islam, about all the religions. So being back to square one...isn't a problemo

Omari

 

[Intisar]

I don't think that's correct. God already knew the human condition as he is the creator and all. Didn't he come down as more of an example and offer a way for mankind to redeem their sins?

Hopefully one of the Christians will set us straight on this.

I was understand the impression that he was crucified for humanities sins.

Why would God need to do such a thing for his creations? Wouldn't he already know our capabilities and what road we're headed in? What would come out of God coming in the form of one of his OWN creations to understand us? God is omnipotent, that means he's above us and therefore made everything (nothing was made without his knowledge) in different proportions. What would God get out of taking on humanities sins? What would be the point in heaven or hell? Aren't we already sinless?

 

[truemuslim]

Honestly I've had enough with this thread. I made the mistake of getting involved because I saw such atrocious misunderstanding and misrepresentation of Scripture. So as always we're back to square one...Christians have their faith and Muslims have theirs.

ok bye.. no one told u to come.. u wanna see the proof u saw it (i think) and if u dont then leave... like seriously are u even typing in a language right there??
I made this thread to proof that christianity is not true, jesus is not god... why would u worship jesus wen u say that he is the son of god?? y dont u worship the god?? jesuus is a prophetnot a god...there sadly is proof FROM THE BIBLE that he is not god and its all in the links i gave u... but noooo..some ppl dont wanna admit that its not the true religion...i kno y.. because u wanna kep doing all that sick stuff until u die even if u knew the trrue religion .. (sorry bout the double letters in all thesee i is freeeeezin ...just woke up..and i gotta class in like 3 minute...online of course...so let me continue then im out) if you really went the right way u would be a muslim right now.. there isnt anything to prove wrong about islam unless its at the website ihatequran.hell.com... k? k... anyway i omari is right ppl come here to GAIN knowledge and they WANT to... u come here to gain knowledge but not gain it all...(islam)...and u act like u was forced here...hehe :thumbs_do

kay: bye


p.s.dang my teacher is gonna be mad now...nah im kiddin theres like 60 students. hehe

 

[wilberhum]

I was understand the impression that he was crucified for humanities sins.

Why would God need to do such a thing for his creations? Wouldn't he already know our capabilities and what road we're headed in? What would come out of God coming in the form of one of his OWN creations to understand us? God is omnipotent, that means he's above us and therefore made everything (nothing was made without his knowledge) in different proportions. What would God get out of taking on humanities sins? What would be the point in heaven or hell? Aren't we already sinless?

I fully agree with you. None of the "Jesus = God" stuff makes any sense. It is all illogical.

My whole kick with this thread is that our opinions are not proof. Keltoi opinion is not proof either. To call it "100% proof" is an insult to intelligence.

Further more, IMHO, the author insults her own intelligence when she uses, what she considers a corrupted document, as proof.

Keltoi said it quite well.

I made the mistake of getting involved because I saw such atrocious misunderstanding and misrepresentation of Scripture. So as always we're back to square one...Christians have their faith and Muslims have theirs.

Too bad people can not accept that it is all about faith and stop feeling the need to insult those that believe different than they do.

 

[truemuslim]

I fully agree with you. None of the "Jesus = God" stuff makes any sense. It is all illogical.

My whole kick with this thread is that our opinions are not proof. Keltoi opinion is not proof either. To call it "100% proof" is an insult to intelligence.

Further more, IMHO, the author insults her own intelligence when she uses, what she considers a corrupted document, as proof.

Keltoi said it quite well.


Too bad people can not accept that it is all about faith and stop feeling the need to insult those that believe different than they do.

i think u should review your self first



actually yes it defidently is proof some people are just too stubborn to realize that tho..like u. if you aint a christian than why will you come here and defend them by saying my PROOF is not proof???????????!!!!! its defidently proof

 

[Mikayeel]

its like saying, if my dad kills some one.... i got to take blame for his action?? That doesnt sound right does it..?

 

[wilberhum]

i think u should review your self first



actually yes it defidently is proof some people are just too stubborn to realize that tho..like u. if you aint a christian than why will you come here and defend them by saying my PROOF is not proof???????????!!!!! its defidently proof

Again, you give proof a bad name. :uuh:

 

[truemuslim]

^^^ you give life a bad name...yea hamada thats exactly what i thought...

what do u expect proof to be??? allah coming down???and givving you WHATEVER you want until u believe..you wanna believe or not your choice no one is going to go give you whatever you want until you believe it... i want to see allah... i wanna see how he made the moon..the earth..me!! my mom...ok he showed me now let me see the angels..NOW!!! fine i wont be a muslim i just stay this agnotic...and make fun of other things then say ppl make fun of other thing and i dont...

too bad wilbrhum..it aint gonna happen...take it or leave it.. lakum deenukum waliya deen

 

[wilberhum]

^^^ you give life a bad name...

Is that an opinion or do you have proof? :giggling::giggling::giggling::giggling::giggling::giggling::giggling::giggling::giggling::giggling::giggling::giggling::giggling::giggling:

 

[truemuslim]

proof... i dunt wanna live knowing ur still in the world... oh and what u said iisnt even funny.. plus where ur proof my proof is wrong??????? ....anyway... u kill the threads when u come.. (no offence )

now lets get back on topic

 

[wilberhum]

proof... i dunt wanna live knowing ur still in the world... oh and what u said iisnt even funny.. plus where ur proof my proof is wrong??????? ....anyway... u kill the threads when u come.. (no offence )

now lets get back on topic

Wow,"i dunt wanna live knowing ur still in the world" sounds like a physical threat.

 

[mohsen1985]

Let's forget the Bible, Qur'an, religion, and everything else . . .

Answer me this . . .
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IF Jesus is in fact "God", and he came down to earth to save mankind . . .
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Why did he come as a baby? Why didn't "God" come right down to earth as a man?
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As a baby he was very vulnerable, at least as a grown man he could have protected himself . . .