WHATS your views on Sharia Laws

[IslamicRevival]

I am educated about my relgion

Ive never met an educated person who doesnt know how to spell 'Religion'.
Peace out eace:

 

[Independent]

There are a no. of crimes in certain parts of America that are punishable by death penalty/lethal injection etc.

Why don't people call American law barbaric?

I do call that law barbaric. The death penalty is wrong wherever, and however, it is delivered.

Death by stoning adds slow torture to the process, as well as requiring many people to partake in the act, so it's even more wrong.

 

[جوري]

^^ the world doesn't function by your definition of 'barbarism' or your personal moral compass!

best,

 

[Independent]

^^ the world doesn't function by your definition of 'barbarism' or your personal moral compass!

These threads work best if you read the question as well as the reply.

 

[M.I.A.]

(This punishment is for unmarried persons guilty of the above crime but if married persons commit it, the punishment is to stone them to death, according to Allâh's Law)

can you quote the numbers for that bracket.

if not where did you get it from?



i dont know why im bothering.

 

[White Rose]

I do call that law barbaric. The death penalty is wrong wherever, and however, it is delivered.

Death by stoning adds slow torture to the process, as well as requiring many people to partake in the act, so it's even more wrong.

If you can make a planet and create living things on it by yourself, then I think your opinion can count

 

[Independent]

If you can make a planet and create living things on it by yourself, then I think your opinion can count

You see, when you wrote in another thread that people had every right to express their opinion here...

'If we're guilty of voicing our opinion on a forum, then you're all guilty of the exact same!'

...then I naively assumed that you meant everyone, not just yourself.

 

[Hulk]

Isn't it interesting how we feel qualified to discuss something we've never actually studied.

 

[White Rose]

You see, when you wrote in another thread that people had every right to express their opinion here...

'If we're guilty of voicing our opinion on a forum, then you're all guilty of the exact same!'

...then I naively assumed that you meant everyone, not just yourself.

I didnt say that so I dont know how that applies to me...

Isn't it interesting how we feel qualified to discuss something we've never actually studied.

Yes it is interesting. Part of the reason why we find flaws in our religion is because we dont have the background information and the enemies use that in their favor to throw us off.

 

[Independent]

I didnt say that so I dont know how that applies to me...

Quite true, my mistake - I thought you were the previous poster.

 

[truthseeker63]

I was told and taught that in Islam Muslims who are Stoned to Death for Adultery are not punished after death therefor they go to Paradise is this true what about Homosexuality if they Repent before they are Stoned can they go to Paradise or what about a Muslim who commits Zina 4 Times ?

 

[Mustafa2012]

I do call that law barbaric. The death penalty is wrong wherever, and however, it is delivered.

Death by stoning adds slow torture to the process, as well as requiring many people to partake in the act, so it's even more wrong.

You are entitled to your opinion.

For some strange reason a group of people (American or otherwise) who studied law and the effects that certain crimes have on society, determined that some people who violate the rights of other human beings don't deserve the privilege of living.

 

['Abd-al Latif]

I do call that law barbaric. The death penalty is wrong wherever, and however, it is delivered.

Death by stoning adds slow torture to the process, as well as requiring many people to partake in the act, so it's even more wrong.

There is no subjectiveness in Islam, which is why personal opinions that contest God's decree hold no weight.

Having said that, it cannot be said that God is bloodthirsty because our worship does not benefit Him nor does our neglect harm Him. All what we do is of benefit to us. Allah says in the Qur'an that He "Wishes for you easy." This goes to show that even a harsh and severe punishment like stoning an adulterer to death is something that will ultimately bring the Muslim adulterer the ease that he or she is promised – even if it's not achieved from the actual act of the prescribed punishment. This ease is achieved when the person dies and reaches Allah without a single sin remaining on his or her account. This is because the severity of being punished by stoning was enough not to put him or her through any more trials and punishments in the afterlife.

When people who date or have girlfriends/boyfriends find out that their partner is cheating on them, the news is always received with anger and great hostility. How often do we see fights in bars and clubs because another man looked at his woman? Then what if there is adultery or fornication involved? The hurt and pain caused to the spouse who was cheated on and the harm that is caused to society with the act of adultery is the reason why this punishment was prescribed.

When people abstain from fornication and adultery, from drinking alcohol and gambling then this cultivates virtue, integrity and strong ethical values. When these characteristics are developed among every single individual then it creates the ideal society that serves as the foundation of goodness.

Can the American values ever promise such a thing? I beg to differ.

 

[جوري]

These threads work best if you read the question as well as the reply.

Indeed but still doesn't change the fact of the matter.. and per my other thread you're most welcome to voice your opinion and ignore what you desire to ignore, we're not voicing an immanent belief of the mind we're discussing God's law! You can opine all you want, it has no weightiness just thought you'd know before you go defending criminals and calling justice 'barbaric' just where you stand!

best,

 

[UmmuShaheed]

I guess what I am tryin to say is that WHY does this law exist,.

Asaalamu Alaikum,
Brother a part of being Muslim is NOT questioning Allah's laws, but trying to LEARN more if your unsure of something.
Also, learning the etiquette of a student of knowledge.

 

[Independent]

I wonder if anyone can estimate for me - what percentage of modern day Muslims agree with this law (stoning for adultery)? In how many countries is this part of the present legal system?

 

[Hulk]

Before anyone can agree or disagree with anything they would first have to understand it. So it's kind of silly to pose the question in that context as if everyone is knowledgable with sharia. I mean even you don't even know it so you it's kind of the one who doesn't know asking the one who doesn't know. Mind you not both are ignorant, the ignorant one is the one who doesn't know but thinks he knows.

 

[جوري]

What I'd really like to know is the percentage of kaffirs advocating for vice, criminality and stirring up sympathy for murderers and/or adulterers who are at the same time exhibitionists.
No reading or reasoning is exercised whatsoever, just parroting the same drivel over and over. We've already stated that short of an absolute confession the law is set up so it is nearly impossible to prove you're an adulterer unless of course you are lewd and go advertising at the same time. At that stage you deserve all that's coming to you.

 

[aamirsaab]

Here's a thought:

Killing a soldier (someone who just happens to be on the 'other' side) in a war is fine.
Killing a murderer (someone from you own who country caused injustice in your own country) is barbaric?


Here's another:

The harsh (or ''barbaric'') punishments everybody is crying about are last resorts after the accused is found guilty in a court of law.


And one final thought (more of a fact really):

Those punishments can only be applied to Muslims...

 

[Independent]

Those punishments can only be applied to Muslims...

But surely, a country must have one system or another? If it's Sharia law, would it not be applied to all citizens, whatever their religion?

The harsh (or ''barbaric'') punishments everybody is crying about are last resorts after the accused is found guilty in a court of law.

Yes - but inevitably, innocent people will be convicted by mistake and they will be executed too.