MTAFFI, if you've seen Islamic history - you'll realise that when the Christians didn't allow the jews to enter this blessed land, it was the Muslims who actually allowed them in and gave them their rights. That's because this is our duty as muslims. You'll see that wherever Muslim rule was (The Ummaya Dynasty in Spain, The Turkish Ottomans etc), the jews settled there along with them, yet they never settled within a christian state. You know why? Because they feared persecution from the christians.
This could be in the past, however I wouldnt say that an Islamic state such as the ottoman empire was hardly fair to its non muslim inhabitants, however that is for another thread, and when i tried to create it, it was denied by the mods. Anyways, Muslims can and do live in Israel and they actually live their very peacefully. In fact, I am sure if the Palestinians wished for Palestine and Israel to be one state (Israel), Israel would gladly oblige.
If the muslims are living within that state, then yes we have lost the land by the will of Allaah, and it will return as it has been prophecised.
Then by the will of Allah, the Palestinians have in fact lost the land that is Israel.
Even if the jews have authority there now, atleast they should be just, and treat the muslims with respect. The same way they have been safe under Muslim rule for many, many centuries - safe from the persecution they would face if living in another state.
They are very just to those that live on their land. Maybe not as just to those who wish to facelessly launch mortar attacks all day.
Yet that isn't the case at all, i have seen many videos on the brutality and hardship the muslims are facing within that country. And even if it is under Jewish rule, that doesn't mean they have the right to harm these people. Especially when it's these people themselves who were once in a similar situation;
War is brutal, I have seen many brutal things done by Muslims in Palestine and other places as well. Bottom line, war is brutal
Remember! Moses said to his people: "Call to mind the favour of Allah to you when He delivered you from the people of Pharaoh: they set you hard tasks and punishments, slaughtered your sons, and let your women-folk live: therein was a tremendous trial from your Lord."
[Qur'an 14:6]
Good quote but I doubt that the good lord cares who inhabits either of these lands, I am quite sure that he would rather see peace
Yet it's so ironical that today it's these exact same people who are doing the same thing as Pharoah, they shoot little children who throw rocks, and then accuse Islaam of being terrorism.
I will not make an excuse for the Israelis, killing children is horrible, and I know it happens everyday. All I can say is what I said above, I believe that soon there will be a breaking point as to how many rockets they will allow to explode on their land and then I fear all men women and children in Palestine will die.
But anyway, i don't need to cry out to anyone besides Allaah since He is the All Hearer, All Aware. And after hardship He grants ease, and He tests the believers the same way He tested the believers of the Children of Israel (Jacob/Ya'qub.)
Maybe the test is to see if we can live in peace, maybe we are failing miserably.
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Also Fi
I appreciate your post, but I dont feel as though you really responded to anything in my original post. But thank you as always for your input, you always speak intelligently and are good to speak with. Reps for you
(i wonder how you did this in your profile)