Father charged with murdering daughter for not wearing hijab

[Sarada]

Salaam Sisters and Brothers,

I would like to make two points: One, is that this murder is now being portrayed as domestic violence rather than as an Islamic issue.

To those who believe that this young girl was overly influenced by "kuffars"and therefore her parents should have ensured that she was protected from the general society, let me tell you about my brother, who is a very devout person who took his family to live in a remote part of Ontario so that his children would not be influenced by society in the suburbs. What happenned? Both of his children became heavily involved with drugs and alchohol.

The successful solution is to give your children the tools to resist negative peer pressure, not to shelter them from it.

Negativity is everywhere, and we need to have positive influences in our lives to help us overcome it. Perhaps her parents were not modelling the more positive aspects of Islam for her.

 

[Intisar]

Well that is the crux of the matter. Is it the religion or the regional culture that caused this "honour killing" mentality. Whichever it is, address it directly and clamp down on its entry into our country.

It's obvious that it's not something that had to do with Islam, it was purely culture. You're from Ontario, flick on the TV and watch the news. All of Aqsa's (Allah ha uu naxariisto) friend say that it had nothing to do with Islam but abuse.

Let me compare how strict Pakistani and Indian Muslim families are within my city than Somalis or Ethiopians are. They mix the culture and deen (religion) with eachother and (not to say that other cultures aren't guilty of this) but such cases are prevalent whether shown on the news or not. She disobeyed him, continuously, and he killed her. End of.

It has nothing to do with Islam, and irritates me to hear and see people saying this. It doesn't take much to know this.

If he were to be in an Islamic country, he would subject to the death penalty under the Shariah law.

 

[ayesha309]

Taking a dispassionate look at it, if some religions CAUSE people to be threats to society, I see no problem with putting roadblocks up to stop adherents of that religion from entering my country. So the real question becomes whether or not their religion is the cause or if the cause is more based on regional culture from where they came (which I think may be the case, and if so we should shift away from focus on the religion and move to focus on the regional culturre) or if this is just a unique case of insanity (in which case there isn't much we can do other than hope our screening of all immigrants from everywhere does better next time)

Pygoscelis: are you native Canadian?? becuase if you're not, then Canada it is not "your country" as you called it ..."

I see no problem with putting roadblocks up to stop adherents of that religion from entering my country.

it is the country of the indigienous poeple; the Inuits, the Indians, the First Nations, the Aboriginals; whatever name you prefer.
If you're not Native Canadian, then a person born in Canada or even this man has as much right to Canada as you do; its "his" country as well. so first of all, i see a problem with your judgement of who a "Canadian" is.
There is nothing wrong with a women who covers herself to be "Canadian" becuase the country is hers as much as it is yours. and whether you would like to believe it or not, there are many women in Canada who were born there and who cover ttheir faces and they LOVE it.

As for the killing, welll........obviously it makes no sense, and i would assume this man should get death penalty under Sharia'ah; although in Canada he wouldn't becuase there is no death penatly there.
Furthermore, i think Keltoi is right when she said there are problems of such sort outside of Islam, if you live in Canada, you know gang violence is a more dangerous and more frequent crime then "honour killing"; so perhaps we need to crackdown on that as well, but how do you identify who is a "gangster" adn who isn't?

 

[Bittersteel]

I live in an Unislamic country, how much have i been influenced? Lots of ppl live in Brits and other unislamic countries, how many still are strong Muslims?

how do I know?I think very few are,Sabeeha not all aren't faithful like you.or remain faithful like you.

 

[Bittersteel]

I live in an Unislamic country, how much have i been influenced? Lots of ppl live in Brits and other unislamic countries, how many still are strong Muslims?

how do I know?I think very few are,Sabeeha not all aren't faithful like you.or remain faithful like you.

 

[Intisar]

Pygoscelis: are you native Canadian?? becuase if you're not, then Canada it is not "your country" as you called it ..." it is the country of the indigienous poeple; the Inuits, the Indians, the First Nations, the Aboriginals; whatever name you prefer.
If you're not Native Canadian, then a person born in Canada or even this man has as much right to Canada as you do; its "his" country as well. so first of all, i see a problem with your judgement of who a "Canadian" is.
There is nothing wrong with a women who covers herself to be "Canadian" becuase the country is hers as much as it is yours. and whether you would like to believe it or not, there are many women in Canada who were born there and who cover ttheir faces and they LOVE it.

As for the killing, welll........obviously it makes no sense, and i would assume this man should get death penalty under Sharia'ah; although in Canada he wouldn't becuase there is no death penatly there.
Furthermore, i think Keltoi is right when she said there are problems of such sort outside of Islam, if you live in Canada, you know gang violence is a more dangerous and more frequent crime then "honour killing"; so perhaps we need to crackdown on that as well, but how do you identify who is a "gangster" adn who isn't?

You're so right sis, barakAllahu feeki.

I never even noticed that post subhanAllah, but now I don't even feel the need to write out a lengthy reply because you said it so perfectly mashaAllah.

 

[snakelegs]

It has nothing to do with Islam, and irritates me to hear and see people saying this. It doesn't take much to know this.

If he were to be in an Islamic country, he would subject to the death penalty under the Shariah law.

you are right.

 

[crayon]

Please show me where Ontario society (the free society I spoke of) has banned women from wearing hajib?

Nowhere in Canada has the normal hajib (the one where you can still see her face) been banned or discouraged. We may mock you for being prudes but that is just free speech. If we ever actually BAN women from wearing those things then it would be cause for concern for all of us (because who says it'd stop there).

Well, actually...
Muslim Airport Employee Suspended For Refusing To Wear Knee-Length Skirt
I'm not saying Canada is horrible or any of that, because it rocks, I'm just showing you that it is starting to happen there as well.

 

[Pygoscelis]

Well, actually...
Muslim Airport Employee Suspended For Refusing To Wear Knee-Length Skirt
I'm not saying Canada is horrible or any of that, because it rocks, I'm just showing you that it is starting to happen there as well.

Well first of all, this isn't about a hajib.

Second, she had the option of wearing slacks (as reported in the link you posted). Its not like she was being forced to wear a mini skirt.

I agree though that she should have been allowed to wear the special garment she designed for herself, even if it wasn't the official uniform of the place. I also think she's going to win her case that she's brought up with the human rights tribunal.

 

[Pygoscelis]

Pygoscelis: are you native Canadian?? becuase if you're not, then Canada it is not "your country" as you called it ..." it is the country of the indigienous poeple; the Inuits, the Indians, the First Nations, the Aboriginals; whatever name you prefer.

And why is that? Even those people came across the bering straight long long ago. There were no human beings originally in north america.

If you're not Native Canadian, then a person born in Canada or even this man has as much right to Canada as you do; its "his" country as well. so first of all, i see a problem with your judgement of who a "Canadian" is.

He does NOW. Note, I was speaking of immigration. An applicant for immigration does NOT have as much right to Canada and is not as much a "Canadian" as I am. The mindset and culture of "Honour Killing" was not developed in Canada. It has come with immigrants from backwards societies elsewhere. And we should crack down on applicants for immigration from these societies, carefully screening them to attempt to avoid this type of thing. We don't need this type of man with this type of mindset running around in our country.

There is nothing wrong with a women who covers herself to be "Canadian" becuase the country is hers as much as it is yours. and whether you would like to believe it or not, there are many women in Canada who were born there and who cover ttheir faces and they LOVE it.

Did I write otherwise? No, I did not. I fully support a woman's right to dress however she chooses, be that covered from head to toe (barring security matters) or be that completely nude. Its her body, and its her choice. Not mine and not yours.

Furthermore, i think Keltoi is right when she said there are problems of such sort outside of Islam, if you live in Canada, you know gang violence is a more dangerous and more frequent crime then "honour killing"; so perhaps we need to crackdown on that as well, but how do you identify who is a "gangster" adn who isn't?

This is another problem with current Canadian immigration policies. We have some homegrown "gangsters" we need to crack down on. But we have also recently been letting in a lot of south american and caribean gangsters that we shouldn't be lately, especially in the Toronto area.

Canada has a very lax immigration policy and that needs to change. We've got a lot of land and can support a growing population but we need to be careful with our screening, so that we get the peaceful and productive people and weed out the troublesome ones as much as possible. I'm all for multiculturalism but not to the point of admitting folks with an indian/arabic "honour killing" or south american "gang banger" mentality. Most arabic/indian and south american folks are good, honour killers and gang bangers are not.

 

[Bittersteel]

you said it right.you guys are too generous and need to improve immigration control and use moderate integration measures in order to tackle such crimes.

 

[~Taalibah~]

how do I know?I think very few are,Sabeeha not all aren't faithful like you.or remain faithful like you.

Do not look at it like that, it is not how i meant it. I do my best, you do yours but that does not make me any better than you, nor does it make me in a position to judge.eace:
All i'm trying to say is that, today most kids are influenced by those around them easily and if not watched they can go the wrong way. But as i said that is not ALWAYS the case, sometimes even when they are kept in the best of company they go wrong, whatever Allah Ta'aala wills.
I based my opinion on the info supplied, Allah Ta'aala knows best.

 

[Karimeldib]

OTTAWA (AFP)

A Canadian Muslim girl murdered this week by her father was not killed for refusing to wear a hijab, her second family said, according to the National Post daily Saturday.

Lubna Tahir, at whose house 16 year old Aqsa Parvez was staying after leaving her own home in Toronto's Mississauga suburb, branded as "rumors" news stories that Parvez's father killed her for not wearing the Muslim headscarf.

Tahir said that Parvez was religiously observant but mainly had wanted to be more independent and "to get more out of life," and so had asked to move in with the Tahirs in the same neighborhood.


"She was satisfied, she was relaxed that somehow her parents understood that this is what she wanted to do, and they didn't push her to come home," Tahir told the National Post.

Pakistan-native cab driver Muhammad Parvez, 57, was arrested at his home Monday where Aqsa was found by emergency workers near death.

According to Tahir, an immigration consultant who also immigrated from Pakistan, Parvez had gone back home to pick up some clothes.

Police said in a statement they received an emergency call at 7:55 am local time from "a man who indicated that he had just killed his daughter."

The girl later died in the hospital, and an autopsy determined that the cause of death was "neck compression."

In the days after her death, friends of the girl told media that Parvez frequently clashed with her estranged family over her reluctance to wear a hijab.

"She would tell us how her dad would always yell at her and how he wanted her to be someone else," her friend Natalie Rance, 14, told the daily Toronto Star.

But Tahir insisted that the girl's four older sisters were also not forced to wear the hijab all the time at home. She also rejected reports that Parvez had a secret boyfriend.

Even so, it was not the first time she had left home, according to the National Post. It said Parvez ran away from home in September, when she fled to a women's shelter.

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

maybe he tripped and the knife fell in her ?!


making excuses for my brother inshaAllaah. may Allaah guide him and forgive him, and accept his daughter in his mercy and grant her jannah.


Assalamu Alaikum

 

[~Taalibah~]

OTTAWA (AFP)


According to Tahir, an immigration consultant who also immigrated from Pakistan, Parvez had gone back home to pick up some clothes.

Police said in a statement they received an emergency call at 7:55 am local time from "a man who indicated that he had just killed his daughter."

The girl later died in the hospital, and an autopsy determined that the cause of death was "neck compression."

Neck compression?
How does stabbing come in?

 

[Keltoi]

I'm also confused as to why stabbing was brought up if the cause of death was strangulation.

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

I'm also confused as to why stabbing was brought up if the cause of death was strangulation.

may Allah remove your confusion lol



lol



Peace

 

[NYCmuslim]

The father should blame himself for not teaching his daughter the importance of modesty.

 

[Talha777]

My sister and a cousin of mine go to the same school, Applewood, as this unfortunate girl, and they knew her as well. However, my sister told me media is sensationalizing and oversimplifying the story. The father did not intend to murder his daughter, only give her a good beating, because she wasn't just refusing to wear hijab, she was being in the company of a dangerous crowd that is into drugs and bad things, and she was wearing very bad clothes as well.

 

[~Taalibah~]

The father did not intend to murder his daughter, only give her a good beating,

Although not the main subject of the topic but still part of, If he intended to just give her a beating, how did he end up stabbing or throttling her? This is getting muddled.